[ltp] Xandros

SOTL linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:25:25 -0500


Thanks for the information.

Frank



On Tuesday 04 January 2005 10:47 am, joshua timberman wrote:
> Somewhat off topic... somewhat relevant... No inflammatory tone intended.
>
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 06:26:09 -0500, SOTL <sotl155360@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > A30P
> >
> > Not a clue. Built in by IBM.
>
> Here's a quick step-through that I used to find some specifications...
>
>
> A30P network adapter
> http://www-132.ibm.com/search/a30p.html
>
> Scroll down to IBM ThinkPad a30p Support Search
> search for "a30p specifications"
>
> Second link was Overview - Thinkpad A30, A30p
> http://tinyurl.com/56byq
>
> I understand that it doesnt contain the chipset information for your
> WiFi card, but that should be a good starting point.
>
> You have your machine type and serial number.  It's printed on a label
> on the Thinkpad, usually the bottom, or the wrist-rest of the
> keyboard. This will garner even more information.
>
> > Point of the preceding explanation was that non teckies do not live in
> > the same technical world as tackies and that things that are obvious to
> > tackies may not be obvious to non tackies.
>
> Please refrain from the "tacky" reference to technical people.
> "Techie" is widely accepted and nonderogatory.  You will lose respect
> and interest of those people if you insult them, deliberately or not,
> and they may not respond to your questions.
>
> > What IBM put in this box I haven't a clue.
>
> Simply searching IBM for your machine type will turn up a lot of
> information.  The IBM asset label consists of three parts: four digit
> machine type [ ] serial number [ ] model number.  That information is
> invaluable when searching IBMs site.  Remember, IBM is the single
> largest computer corporation in the world.  As such, their site
> contains far too much information to really navigate easily.
>
> Technical or not, EVERY user on the internet *MUST* know how to use
> Search engines properly.  Really.  It isn't an option unless you want
> to continue bumbling ignorantly.
>
> You are also fully capable of using a telephone and calling support.
> The help desk support staff at IBM has been above average in my
> experience. If this is too inconvenient for you, then I have no
> sympathy for your problems.
>
> >> [ my explanation cut ]
> >
> > You have made my point exactly above. To complicated for non tackies to
> > attempt.
>
> What is complicated?  Jumping through hoops to find an obscure WiFi
> chipset and make it work?  Of course.  And that is exactly why I
> commented as I did in another thread - Linux is NOT ready for the
> average desktop user.  Until all Linux installations work as perfectly
> as SuSE 9.2 on my T41, it won't be.
>
> For the record, the SuSE X configuration recognized my external
> monitor just fine, the only issue was setting up a dual head display.
> This is not a normal user task as most end users don't even have two
> displays.
>
> > I agree. Just wish I could get it to work on my desktop but that is a
> > hardware issue not a software issue that only developed recently that I
> > have not had time to address.
>
> There is a lot of documentation available to assist you with resolving
> your problems.  It takes some skill with a search engine (I recommend
> Google), or prior knowledge of where to start (eg,
> http://www.tldp.org/).  But ignorance is no excuse.  If a user wants
> to veer away from the so called "industry standard" of Windows, then
> there's some extra effort required.  If one doesn't know something,
> there's a multitude of user communities out there available to help.
>
> There's Linux experts abound on mailing lists such as this one, and
> I've found most problems have already been discovered, though not
> always with solutions. When there isn't a solution, its time to file a
> bug report or support ticket with the vendor, manufacturer or
> developer.  When there is, some Google searching can find the
> solutions to most problems.
>
> And if you really want to know what chipset your WiFi card is using,
> I'd start with the "lspci" command ;).
>
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