[ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43

Oren Gross linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:40:20 +0200


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Same thing with FC3 on T42p, xorg-x11-*-fc3.45 breaks X
see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77971


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>    1. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Jan Girlich)
>    2. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Charles E. "Rick" Taylor, IV)
>    3. Re: Wine and Windows XP (Paul RIVIER)
>    4. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Jan Girlich)
>    5. GNOME Power Manager (Pino Giaquinto)
>    6. Composite performance with X.org - radeon M9 (JP Renaud)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:00:27 +0200
> From: Jan Girlich <vollkorn@freenet.de>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43
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> Hi,
> 
> Thomas Roessler schrieb:
> > On 2005-09-17 10:41:58 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> >=20
> >>A quick warning:  The latest xorg-x11 upgrade on Fedora Core 4 seems
> >>to break X11 with the i915 adapter on a T43 (and yes, I do install the
> >>dri.sf.net drivers).
> >=20
> > To be a bit more precise, the broken packages are the
> > xorg-x11-*-6.8.2-37.FC4.48.1 series.  xorg-x11-6.8.2-37.FC4.45 and
> > friends is working properly here, with the dri.sf.net drivers.
> 
> Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use=20
> the same driver, don't they?
> 
> Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are=20
> suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> Jan
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> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43
> From: "Charles E. \"Rick\" Taylor, IV" <charletiv@gmail.com>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Organization: The Romulan Star Empire
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:20:31 -0400
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> 
> On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 22:00 +0200, Jan Girlich wrote:
> 
> > Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use 
> > the same driver, don't they?
> 
> > Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are 
> > suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11?
> 
> In my experience, the i855GM has *always* been broken in some way on
> Fedora (at least for FC3 and FC4).  For me, the breakage was that 3D
> apps would crash either themselves or the X server after a
> suspend/resume cycle.  
> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> *  Charles E. "Rick" Taylor, IV <charletiv@gmail.com>
> *  ( Formerly tomalek@mindspring.com )
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> *  Web: http://www.rickandpatty.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:44:52 +0200
> From: Paul RIVIER <paul.rivier@eleve.emn.fr>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Wine and Windows XP
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> 
> Christopher Sawtell wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:07, Hector Socas Navarro wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>        I'm trying to make wine run some of my windows applications, such
> >>as powerpoint or stellarium.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >You can make really beautiful presentations in the linux environment.
> >For a similar program to PowerPoint you can use the OpenOffice.org Impress 
> >utility. Export the work as a PDF file and use a recent Acroread to view your 
> >masterpiece.
> >
> >Better, imho, presentations can be made using Scribus, and Acroread as the 
> >viewer.
> >
> >If you are into doing things using scripts, LaTeX, possibly with the LyX 
> >front-end, can create really beautiful slides.
> >
> >Stellarium is a native Linux program, you do not need Wine to run it.
> >Celestia and Kstars are alternatives.
> >
> >  
> >
> give kdissert a try, it can generate nice latex-beamer presentation. I'm 
> currently working on improving latex export as much as possible. My 
> purpose is to provide a new way of making a full document from scratch 
> thanks to mind-mapping and latex, without any syntax. :)
> 
> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12725
> 
> paul
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:36:28 +0200
> From: Jan Girlich <vollkorn@freenet.de>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43
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> Charles E. "Rick" Taylor, IV schrieb:
> > On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 22:00 +0200, Jan Girlich wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >>Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use=20
> >>the same driver, don't they?
> >=20
> >=20
> >>Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are=20
> >>suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11=
> ?
> >=20
> >=20
> > In my experience, the i855GM has *always* been broken in some way on
> > Fedora (at least for FC3 and FC4).  For me, the breakage was that 3D
> > apps would crash either themselves or the X server after a
> > suspend/resume cycle. =20
> 
> I had a similar problem. The error that I had was something about=20
> Ringbuffer, but that's fixed by now! Errr... At least in my=20
> gentoo-system, don't know about Fedora.
> 
> What I wan't to track down is this bug:
> 
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3105
> 
> Not only in Fedora, but in general.
> 
> Bye
> Jan
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> Message: 5
> From: "Pino Giaquinto" <pino.giaquinto@aliceposta.it>
> To: "Linux su ThinkPad - Mailing List" <linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org>
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:15:40 +0200
> Subject: [ltp] GNOME Power Manager
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> 
> Do you know GNOME Power Manager?
> I found it here: http://gnome-power.sourceforge.net/index.php
> I have Fedora Core 4 on my ThinkPad T30 with 'acpi=off' option in grub.conf, 
> 'acpid' service disabled and 'apmd' service enabled: all work fine!
> Do you think that can be a good idea to install it?
> Must I disable both 'apmd' and 'acpid' service?
> Which option I must add to grub.conf in this case?
> Besides I wish to know if there are just 2 speed level for my cpu P4M 1800 
> MHz (1200 MHz and 1800MHz)... I need to know how can save more energy from 
> my battery! 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> From: JP Renaud <jprenaud@emailplus.org>
> To: Linux Thinkpad <linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org>
> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:46:18 +0100
> Subject: [ltp] Composite performance with X.org - radeon M9
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've tried to enable composite in X.org (with KDE) on my R51 (Radeon 
> Mobile 9000) this w-e. I run X.org 6.8.2 (from Gentoo) and use the 
> opensource radeon driver.
> 
> The display was stunning but unfortunately, it was rather rather 
> unusable: X started to use all the CPU. Dragging a window, resizing or 
> changing focus between windows would take ages. Basically, it was great 
> until you used the keyboard or the mouse...
> 
> I am thinking on changing to a later version of X.org (a recent CVS 
> snapshot packaged by Gentoo I think) to see if the composite 
> performance has improved with the radeon driver. Do any of you run 
> X.org CVS and could let me know if composite performance has improved 
> enough since 6.8.2 to make it usable with a radeon M9?
> 
> I've also heard about EXA acceleration which is meant to improve things 
> quite a bit. Is that true whith radeon cards too?
> 
> My radeon driver options:
> 
> Section "Device"
>      Identifier  "ATI Mobility Radeon 9000"
>      Driver      "radeon"
>      VendorName  "IBM Thinkpad"
>      BoardName   "ATI Radeon Mobility M9"
> 
>      Option      "DynamicClocks" "on"
>      Option      "AGPMode" "4"
>  #    Option      "AGPFastWrite" "true"
>  #    Option      "EnablePageFlip" "true"
>      Option      "backingstore"  "true"
>      Option      "RenderAccel"   "true"
> EndSection
> 
> Enabling "AGPFastWrite" just locks the machine, I can't kill the X 
> server and I have to use the power button.
> 
> I have not tried enabling "EnablePageFlip" yet but I don't know if it 
> would help either for composite.
> 
> Many thanks for your help.
> 
> JP
> 
> -- 
> JP Renaud
> 
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Same thing with FC3 on T42p, <FONT COLOR="#000000">xorg-x11-*-fc</FONT>3.45 breaks X<BR>
see <A HREF="http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77971">http://forums.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=77971</A><BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">   1. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Jan Girlich)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">   2. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Charles E. &quot;Rick&quot; Taylor, IV)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">   3. Re: Wine and Windows XP (Paul RIVIER)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">   4. Re: Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43 (Jan Girlich)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">   5. GNOME Power Manager (Pino Giaquinto)</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">   6. Composite performance with X.org - radeon M9 (JP Renaud)</FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 1</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:00:27 +0200</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Jan Girlich &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vollkorn@freenet.de">vollkorn@freenet.de</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hi,</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thomas Roessler schrieb:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; On 2005-09-17 10:41:58 +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;A quick warning:  The latest xorg-x11 upgrade on Fedora Core 4 seems</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;to break X11 with the i915 adapter on a T43 (and yes, I do install the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;dri.sf.net drivers).</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; To be a bit more precise, the broken packages are the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; xorg-x11-*-6.8.2-37.FC4.48.1 series.  xorg-x11-6.8.2-37.FC4.45 and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; friends is working properly here, with the dri.sf.net drivers.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">the same driver, don't they?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Thanks in advance</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jan</FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: &quot;Charles E. \&quot;Rick\&quot; Taylor, IV&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:charletiv@gmail.com">charletiv@gmail.com</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Organization: The Romulan Star Empire</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:20:31 -0400</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 22:00 +0200, Jan Girlich wrote:</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; the same driver, don't they?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">In my experience, the i855GM has *always* been broken in some way on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Fedora (at least for FC3 and FC4).  For me, the breakage was that 3D</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">apps would crash either themselves or the X server after a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">suspend/resume cycle.  </FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">*  Charles E. &quot;Rick&quot; Taylor, IV &lt;<A HREF="mailto:charletiv@gmail.com">charletiv@gmail.com</A>&gt;</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 3</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:44:52 +0200</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Paul RIVIER &lt;<A HREF="mailto:paul.rivier@eleve.emn.fr">paul.rivier@eleve.emn.fr</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [ltp] Wine and Windows XP</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Christopher Sawtell wrote:</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:07, Hector Socas Navarro wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;  </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;        I'm trying to make wine run some of my windows applications, such</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;as powerpoint or stellarium.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;    </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;You can make really beautiful presentations in the linux environment.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;For a similar program to PowerPoint you can use the OpenOffice.org Impress </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;utility. Export the work as a PDF file and use a recent Acroread to view your </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;masterpiece.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;Better, imho, presentations can be made using Scribus, and Acroread as the </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;viewer.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;If you are into doing things using scripts, LaTeX, possibly with the LyX </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;front-end, can create really beautiful slides.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;Stellarium is a native Linux program, you do not need Wine to run it.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;Celestia and Kstars are alternatives.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;  </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">give kdissert a try, it can generate nice latex-beamer presentation. I'm </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">currently working on improving latex export as much as possible. My </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">purpose is to provide a new way of making a full document from scratch </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">thanks to mind-mapping and latex, without any syntax. :)</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12725">http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=12725</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">paul</FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 4</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:36:28 +0200</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: Jan Girlich &lt;<A HREF="mailto:vollkorn@freenet.de">vollkorn@freenet.de</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: Beware: xorg-x11-*-fc4.48 breaks i915 on T43</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Charles E. &quot;Rick&quot; Taylor, IV schrieb:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 22:00 +0200, Jan Girlich wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;Aren't the i855GM and i915-chipsets pretty similar? At least they use=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;the same driver, don't they?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;Well, if so this may be the same problem me and some other people are=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;&gt;suffering from. Do you mind to mail a Xorg.0.log of a crashing xorg-x11=</FONT>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt;=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; In my experience, the i855GM has *always* been broken in some way on</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Fedora (at least for FC3 and FC4).  For me, the breakage was that 3D</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; apps would crash either themselves or the X server after a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; suspend/resume cycle. =20</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I had a similar problem. The error that I had was something about=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Ringbuffer, but that's fixed by now! Errr... At least in my=20</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">gentoo-system, don't know about Fedora.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">What I wan't to track down is this bug:</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000"><A HREF="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3105">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3105</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Not only in Fedora, but in general.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Bye</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Jan</FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 5</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: &quot;Pino Giaquinto&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:pino.giaquinto@aliceposta.it">pino.giaquinto@aliceposta.it</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: &quot;Linux su ThinkPad - Mailing List&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 11:15:40 +0200</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: [ltp] GNOME Power Manager</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Do you know GNOME Power Manager?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I found it here: <A HREF="http://gnome-power.sourceforge.net/index.php">http://gnome-power.sourceforge.net/index.php</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have Fedora Core 4 on my ThinkPad T30 with 'acpi=off' option in grub.conf, </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">'acpid' service disabled and 'apmd' service enabled: all work fine!</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Do you think that can be a good idea to install it?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Must I disable both 'apmd' and 'acpid' service?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Which option I must add to grub.conf in this case?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Besides I wish to know if there are just 2 speed level for my cpu P4M 1800 </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">MHz (1200 MHz and 1800MHz)... I need to know how can save more energy from </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">my battery! </FONT>



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<FONT COLOR="#000000">Message: 6</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">From: JP Renaud &lt;<A HREF="mailto:jprenaud@emailplus.org">jprenaud@emailplus.org</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">To: Linux Thinkpad &lt;<A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A>&gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 10:46:18 +0100</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Subject: [ltp] Composite performance with X.org - radeon M9</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Reply-To: <A HREF="mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org</A></FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Hello,</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I've tried to enable composite in X.org (with KDE) on my R51 (Radeon </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Mobile 9000) this w-e. I run X.org 6.8.2 (from Gentoo) and use the </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">opensource radeon driver.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">The display was stunning but unfortunately, it was rather rather </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">unusable: X started to use all the CPU. Dragging a window, resizing or </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">changing focus between windows would take ages. Basically, it was great </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">until you used the keyboard or the mouse...</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I am thinking on changing to a later version of X.org (a recent CVS </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">snapshot packaged by Gentoo I think) to see if the composite </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">performance has improved with the radeon driver. Do any of you run </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">X.org CVS and could let me know if composite performance has improved </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">enough since 6.8.2 to make it usable with a radeon M9?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I've also heard about EXA acceleration which is meant to improve things </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">quite a bit. Is that true whith radeon cards too?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">My radeon driver options:</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Section &quot;Device&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Identifier  &quot;ATI Mobility Radeon 9000&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Driver      &quot;radeon&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     VendorName  &quot;IBM Thinkpad&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     BoardName   &quot;ATI Radeon Mobility M9&quot;</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Option      &quot;DynamicClocks&quot; &quot;on&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Option      &quot;AGPMode&quot; &quot;4&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> #    Option      &quot;AGPFastWrite&quot; &quot;true&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000"> #    Option      &quot;EnablePageFlip&quot; &quot;true&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Option      &quot;backingstore&quot;  &quot;true&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">     Option      &quot;RenderAccel&quot;   &quot;true&quot;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">EndSection</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Enabling &quot;AGPFastWrite&quot; just locks the machine, I can't kill the X </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">server and I have to use the power button.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">I have not tried enabling &quot;EnablePageFlip&quot; yet but I don't know if it </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">would help either for composite.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">Many thanks for your help.</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">JP</FONT>

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<FONT COLOR="#000000">JP Renaud</FONT>


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