[ltp] Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)

Ahmad Amr linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:30 +0200


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Thanks for your answers guys, but actually none of these options worked wit=
h
me! I have an Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) and
I'm using ndiswrapper to get it working properly (ndiswrapper made it work
much better than madwifi or ath5k), any ideas? Can I enable the LED when
using ndiswrapper?


On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM,
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>   1. Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Ahmad Amr)
>   2. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Daniel
> Castro)
>   3. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Shanno=
n
> McMackin)
>   4. Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Shannon McMackin)
>   5. battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
>   6. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Henrique de Moraes Holschuh)
>   7. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Micha
> Feigin)
>   8. Re: battery questions (rappard@dds.nl)
>   9. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Daniel)
>  10. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
>  11. Re: battery questions (rappard@dds.nl)
>  12. ThinkVantage Key (Pezhman Givy)
>  13. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (cupaxe)
>  14. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
>  15. Re: battery questions (Micha Feigin)
>  16. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (Richard Neill)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200
> From: Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
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> Dear All,
>
> Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpad
> T60
> on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find any
> answer,
> hope to find one here, thanks!
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Ahmad Amr
>
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> <div dir=3D"ltr">Dear All,<br><br>Does anyone have an idea how to get the
> wireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled
> around a lot and didn&#39;t find any answer, hope to find one here,
> thanks!<br>
> <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Ahmad Amr<br></div>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:35:39 +0000
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibe=
x)
> From: Daniel Castro <castromd@tcd.ie>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
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> 2009/1/17 Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net>
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpa=
d
> > T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex??
> >
> i posted this on
> Thinkwiki<
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_=
on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_the_Atheros_cards
> >....
> it works for me on a T61 with an Atheros card...
>
> > I googled around a lot and didn't find any answer, hope to find one her=
e,
> > thanks!
> >
> hope it helps!
>
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Amr
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ________________________
>
> Daniel Castro, M.Sc.
> +353 083-318-2058
> dancasmo@gmail.com
> castromd@tcd.ie
> ________________________
>
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> <br><br><div class=3D3D"gmail_quote">2009/1/17 Ahmad Amr <span
> dir=3D3D"ltr">&l=3D
> t;<a href=3D3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net
> </a>&gt;</span><br><blockqu=3D
> ote class=3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 20=
4,
> 204=3D
> ); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> <div dir=3D3D"ltr">Dear All,<br><br>Does anyone have an idea how to get t=
he
> w=3D
> ireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid
> Ibex??</div></blockq=3D
> uote><div>i posted <a href=3D3D"
> http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3D
>
> tu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with=
_t=3D<http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3Dtu_8.10_%28Intrepid_I=
bex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_t=3D>
> he_Atheros_cards">this on Thinkwiki</a>.... it works for me on a T61 with
> a=3D
> n Atheros card... <br>
> </div><blockquote class=3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id
> rgb=3D
> (204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
> dir=3D3D=3D
> "ltr"> I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t find any answer, hope to fin=
d
> =3D
> one here, thanks!</div>
> </blockquote><div>hope it helps! <br></div><blockquote
> class=3D3D"gmail_quote=3D
> " style=3D3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0=
pt
> 0=3D
>  .8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D3D"ltr"><br>
> <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Ahmad Amr<br></div>
> </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D3D"all"><br>--
> <br>_______________________=3D
> _<br><br>Daniel Castro, M.Sc.<br>+353 083-318-2058<br><a href=3D3D"mailto=
:
> dan=3D
> casmo@gmail.com">dancasmo@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D3D"mailto:
> castromd@tcd.i=3D
> e">castromd@tcd.ie</a><br>
> ________________________<br>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> From: Shannon McMackin <smcmackin@gmail.com>
> Date:  Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:33:06 -0500
> Subject: [ltp] Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibe=
x)
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> Ahmad Amr wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpa=
d
> > T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find an=
y
> > answer, hope to find one here, thanks!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Amr
> It should work if you install the backports package for your kernel.  In
> 8.04 you also needed the linux-ubuntu-modules package, but in 8.10 they
> did away with that package.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> From: Shannon McMackin <smcmackin@gmail.com>
> Date:  Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500
> Subject: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> Richard Neill wrote:
> >
> >
> > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> >>>> On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote=
:
> >>>>> Degree would be this one: 10=B0C
> >>>> And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree symbol using
> us-intl?
> >>>> (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-International.svg
> >>>
> >>> It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon
> >>> At least the Glyph appears to be correct
> >>
> >> Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters).  A trick someone told me
> >> (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.
> >>
> >> It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested, and it
> >> works
> >> as well as the vim key combo).  I didn't try in the thinkpad, though.
> >
> > I found it at AltGr-shift-0   (i.e. AltGr-rightparen  )
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> I can't seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:58:24 +0100
> From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
>
> Hello,
>
> IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> on-line shopping).
>
> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
>
> =A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
>
> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
>        http://pinux.info
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 6
> From: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:11:43 -0200
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500, "Shannon McMackin" <
> smcmackin@gmail.com=3D
> > said:
> > Richard Neill wrote:
> > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > >>>> On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> wrote:
> > >>>>> Degree would be this one: 10=3DB0C
> > >>>> And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree symbol using
> us-in=3D
> tl?
> > >>>> (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)
> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-International.svg
> > >>>
> > >>> It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon
> > >>> At least the Glyph appears to be correct
> > >>
> > >> Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters).  A trick someone told me
> > >> (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.
> > >>
> > >> It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested, and i=
t=3D
> =3D20
> > >> works
> > >> as well as the vim key combo).  I didn't try in the thinkpad, though=
.
> > >=3D20
> > > I found it at AltGr-shift-0   (i.e. AltGr-rightparen  )
> > >=3D20
> > > Richard
> > >=3D20
> > >=3D20
> > I can't seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.
>
> T43, US keyboard:  AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&#730;), or AltGr-SHIFT-0 a (=3DE=
5),
> =3D
> etc.
>
> They made it into the ring accent :)  At least now I know how to type the
> Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).
>
> So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processing.
> Hmm...
>
> --=3D20
>  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
>  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
>  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
>  Henrique Holschuh
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:08:09 +0200
> From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibe=
x)
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200
> Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpa=
d
> T60
> > on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find any
> answer,
> > hope to find one here, thanks!
> >
>
> What wireless card do you have in there (at least with the t61 there are
> three
> different options).
>
> lspci | grep Ethernet
> should give you the answer.
>
> At least with intel iwl4965 I had to compile the compatwireless drivers
> with
> the led enabled. With madwifi and atheros it required setting sysctl
> variables
>
> dev.wifi0.ledpin =3D 1
> dev.wifi0.softled =3D 3
>
> With ath5k I haven't managed to get it working with the in kernel drivers
> yet
> and I'm currently on 2.6.29-rc so the compatwireless drivers don't compil=
e
> so I
> haven't delved into them at the moment
>
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Amr
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:27:21 +0100
> From: rappard@dds.nl
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
>        Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> > IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> > on-line shopping).
> >
> > I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> >
> > =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> >
> > I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be =3D2=
0
> *that* bad.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:06:13 +0100
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> From: Daniel <skorka@gmx.net>
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 03:11:43PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> wrote:
> > T43, US keyboard:  AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&#730;), or AltGr-SHIFT-0 a (=
=E5),
> etc.
> >
> > They made it into the ring accent :)  At least now I know how to type t=
he
> > Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).
> >
> > So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processing.
> > Hmm...
>
> Ok, this is getting seriously off-topic:
>
> I can't see any special processing going on; do
> $ xkbprint -ll 3 :0 keyboardmap.ps
> and look at the file. You should see 'degree' mentioned right on the '0'
> key.
> In other words it's just the X servers keymap.
>
>
> regards,
> Daniel
> --
> What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but
> if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent=
?
>        -- Richard P. Feynman
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:59:07 +0100
> From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
>
> Hello,
>
> On Jan/17/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
> >> IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> >> on-line shopping).
> >>
> >> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> >> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> >>
> >> =A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> >>
> >> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> >> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> > *that* bad.
>
> well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop?
>
> --
> Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
>        http://pinux.info
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:14:46 +0100
> From: rappard@dds.nl
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
>        Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> >>> IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> >>> on-line shopping).
> >>>
> >>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> >>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> >>>
> >>> =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> >>>
> >>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> >>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> >> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> >> *that* bad.
> >
> > well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> > for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop?
>
> Here you go:
>
>
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessori=
esQ=3D
>
> 5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=3D3=
D&_trksid=3D
> =3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0<http://shop.=
ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessoriesQ=3D5fLaptop=
Batteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=3D3D&_trksid=
=3D=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0>
>
> 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if =3D20
> not, you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you =3D=
20
> can always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
>
> And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official laptop =
=3D20
> batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
>
> Martin
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0100
> From: Pezhman Givy <phg@snafu.de>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: [ltp] ThinkVantage Key
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I would like to use the ThinkVantage key.
> ThinkWiki says the action triggered by the key can be configured by gnome
> System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts.
> But this does not work for me.
>
> xev doesn't see a key press when I press the ThinkVantage button.
>
> I tried
>
> xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_all_mask
> 0x03ffffff
> xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# echo 0x03ffffff > hotkey_mask
> xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_mask
> 0x03ffffff
>
> But still no key press will be seen by xev.
>
> Any suggestions to make the key work?
>
> Thank you
>
> Pezhman
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD
> From: cupaxe <cupaxe@gmail.com>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On
> your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same
> exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for
> me, it didn't solve the problem.
>
> The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during
> the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it
> to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it
> goes blank is different for every reboot.
>
> Do you all still think it is an inverter problem? If not, then is it a
> backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to
> be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven't removed the
> LCD from the casing so I don't even know what lies behind it and how I
> can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and
> suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
> Krishna
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> <hmh@hmh.eng.br> wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, bhaskins@chartermi.net wrote:
> >> Many inverter problems are actually the cable that brings the power ov=
er
> to the inverter.
> >> A brand new out of the box white eraser can be used to remove the lead
> oxide that forms on the cable.
> >> Then too, sometimes the cable is broken, it flexes everytime that you
> open and close the lid.
> >
> > Also, if you get anywhere near any solder joints on those cables (I don=
't
> > know if IBM used solder or proper connectors), be very sure to do a
> perfect
> > job, without any sharp or pointy edges.  Bad contact in the inverter
> output
> > (be it broken cable, connector, or bad solder joint) is a recipe for
> > disaster.
> >
> > --
> >  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
> >  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
> >  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
> >  Henrique Holschuh
> > --
> > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
> > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
> >
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100
> From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
>
> Hello,
>
> On Jan/18/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
>
> >>>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> >>>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> =A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> >>>>
> >>>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> >>>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> >>> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> >>> *that* bad.
> >>
> >> well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> >> I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> >> for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop=
?
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> >
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessori=
esQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D0&_fromfsb=3D&_tr=
ksid=3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D0
> >
> > 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if not,
> > you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you can
> > always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
>
> I'm not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for
> example)
>
> I'm worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official from
> Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:
>
> -5200 mAh but they are less...
> -Battery gets hotter
> -More memory effect
> -Battery doesn't give good information to the laptop (battery remaing
> and other information)
> -Gets broken before
> -...
>
> > And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official laptop
> > batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
>
> different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I'm not
> battery expert I'm asking if, as standard user, I will notice something.
>
> I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under
> Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing list.
> If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)
>
> --
> Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
>        http://pinux.info
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:03:19 +0200
> From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100
> Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat> wrote:
>
> >=3D20
> > Hello,
> >=3D20
> > On Jan/18/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
> >=3D20
> > >>>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > >>>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experienc=
e
> > >>>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > >>> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't b=
e
> > >>> *that* bad.
> > >>
> > >> well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > >> I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searchin=
g
> > >> for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random
> shop?
> > >
> > > Here you go:
> > >
> > >
> http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=
=3D
>
> riesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfs=
b=3D3D&_=3D
> trksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0<http:/=
/shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=3DriesQ5f=
LaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=3D3D&_=
=3Dtrksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0>
> > >
> > > 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if
> not,=3D
> =3D20
> > > you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you can=
=3D20
> > > always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
> >=3D20
> > I'm not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for
> > example)
> >=3D20
> > I'm worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official from
> > Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:
> >=3D20
> > -5200 mAh but they are less...
> > -Battery gets hotter
> > -More memory effect
> > -Battery doesn't give good information to the laptop (battery remaing
> > and other information)
> > -Gets broken before
> > -...
> >=3D20
>
> The one laptop battery I bought some years back from ebay was fine. Bough=
t
> locally from a friend who orders them from china and also had no problem.
>
> There are two main issue that can come up,
> 1. The battery is over rated (says 4000 and its 3000 mAh). Check what is
> the
> expected capacity of the battery you are looking for. If they are rating =
it
> much higher then it's probably a fake (there is a limited capacity the
> batteries can have and assume that the manufacturer one almost achieves i=
t)
>
> 2. They may be old which means that they will die faster.
>
> On the other hand they can be 30%-50% cheaper. If they are too cheap it's
> a=3D
> lso
> suspicious. Check local prices for replacement batteries. Order from
> someone
> with a lot of reviews.
>
> > > And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official lapto=
p
> =3D
> =3D20
> > > batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
> >=3D20
> > different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I'm not
> > battery expert I'm asking if, as standard user, I will notice something=
.
> >=3D20
> > I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under
> > Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing list.
> > If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)
> >=3D20
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:23:06 +0000
> From: Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
>
>
> cupaxe wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On
> > your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same
> > exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for
> > me, it didn't solve the problem.
>
> That's a shame. It was a good chance, but not a certainty.
>
> >
> > The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during
> > the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it
> > to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it
> > goes blank is different for every reboot.
>
> Just to check: I presume that these are various numbers of seconds,
> rather than minutes?
>
> > Do you all still think it is an inverter problem?
>
> If you've already replaced the inverter, then it probably isn't an
> inverter problem, and you need a new backlight.
>
>
> If not, then is it a
> > backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to
> > be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven't removed the
> > LCD from the casing so I don't even know what lies behind it and how I
> > can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and
> > suggestions.
>
> There's a good howto here:
>
> http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2007/12/09/replace-laptop-backlight=
-ccfl-lamp/
>
> Note: CCFLs contain mercury, which is moderately toxic. Try not to break
> the backlight. If you do, ventilate the area carefully before you return
>  to it.
>
> Richard
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> --
> The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
> http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
>
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Thanks for your answers guys, but actually none of these options worked wit=
h me! I have an Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) a=
nd I&#39;m using ndiswrapper to get it working properly (ndiswrapper made i=
t work much better than madwifi or ath5k), any ideas? Can I enable the LED =
when using ndiswrapper?<br>
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM,  <span =
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Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
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 &nbsp; 1. Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Ahmad =
Amr)<br>
 &nbsp; 2. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Da=
niel Castro)<br>
 &nbsp; 3. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Sh=
annon McMackin)<br>
 &nbsp; 4. Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Shannon McMackin)<br>
 &nbsp; 5. battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)<br>
 &nbsp; 6. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Henrique de Moraes Holschuh)<=
br>
 &nbsp; 7. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Mi=
cha Feigin)<br>
 &nbsp; 8. Re: battery questions (<a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard=
@dds.nl</a>)<br>
 &nbsp; 9. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Daniel)<br>
 &nbsp;10. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)<br>
 &nbsp;11. Re: battery questions (<a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard=
@dds.nl</a>)<br>
 &nbsp;12. ThinkVantage Key (Pezhman Givy)<br>
 &nbsp;13. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (cupaxe)<br>
 &nbsp;14. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)<br>
 &nbsp;15. Re: battery questions (Micha Feigin)<br>
 &nbsp;16. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (Richard Neill)<=
br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200<br>
From: Ahmad Amr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net</a>&gt;<=
br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
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Dear All,<br>
<br>
Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpad T6=
0<br>
on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t find any an=
swer,<br>
hope to find one here, thanks!<br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
<br>
Ahmad Amr<br>
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&lt;div dir=3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Dear All,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone h=
ave an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu I=
ntrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn&amp;#39;t find any answer, h=
ope to find one here, thanks!&lt;br&gt;<br>

&lt;br&gt;Kind Regards,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ahmad Amr&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<=
br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:35:39 +0000<br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)=
<br>
From: Daniel Castro &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:castromd@tcd.ie">castromd@tcd.ie<=
/a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
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2009/1/17 Ahmad Amr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net</a>&=
gt;<br>
<br>
&gt; Dear All,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkp=
ad<br>
&gt; T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex??<br>
&gt;<br>
i posted this on<br>
Thinkwiki&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.1=
0_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_the_Ath=
eros_cards" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=
tu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_t=
he_Atheros_cards</a>&gt;....<br>

it works for me on a T61 with an Atheros card...<br>
<br>
&gt; I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t find any answer, hope to find on=
e here,<br>
&gt; thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
hope it helps!<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kind Regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ahmad Amr<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
________________________<br>
<br>
Daniel Castro, M.Sc.<br>
+353 083-318-2058<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:dancasmo@gmail.com">dancasmo@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:castromd@tcd.ie">castromd@tcd.ie</a><br>
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;2009/1/17 =
Ahmad Amr &lt;span dir=3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;l=3D<br>
t;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.ne=
t</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net</a>&lt;/a&gt;=
&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockqu=3D<br>
ote class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=3D3D&quot;border-left: 1px soli=
d rgb(204, 204, 204=3D<br>
); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;<br>
&lt;div dir=3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;Dear All,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone=
 have an idea how to get the w=3D<br>
ireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex??&lt;/div&gt;&l=
t;/blockq=3D<br>
uote&gt;&lt;div&gt;i posted &lt;a href=3D3D&quot;<a href=3D"http://www.thin=
kwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3Dtu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_=
T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_t=3D" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thinkwik=
i.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3D<br>

tu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_t=
=3D</a><br>
he_Atheros_cards&quot;&gt;this on Thinkwiki&lt;/a&gt;.... it works for me o=
n a T61 with a=3D<br>
n Atheros card... &lt;br&gt;<br>
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=3D3D&quo=
t;border-left: 1px solid rgb=3D<br>
(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt=
;div dir=3D3D=3D<br>
&quot;ltr&quot;&gt; I googled around a lot and didn&amp;#39;t find any answ=
er, hope to find =3D<br>
one here, thanks!&lt;/div&gt;<br>
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;hope it helps! &lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;bloc=
kquote class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote=3D<br>
&quot; style=3D3D&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0=
pt 0pt 0pt 0=3D<br>
&nbsp;.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;&lt;div dir=3D3D&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;=
&lt;br&gt;<br>
&lt;br&gt;Kind Regards,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ahmad Amr&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<=
br>
&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br clear=3D3D&quot;all&quot;&g=
t;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;_______________________=3D<br>
_&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Daniel Castro, M.Sc.&lt;br&gt;+353 083-318-2058&lt;br&=
gt;&lt;a href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:dan">dan</a>=3D<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:casmo@gmail.com">casmo@gmail.com</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:dancasmo@gmail.com">dancasmo@gmail.com</a>&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a =
href=3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:castromd@tcd.i">castromd@tcd.i</a>=
=3D<br>

e&quot;&gt;<a href=3D"mailto:castromd@tcd.ie">castromd@tcd.ie</a>&lt;/a&gt;=
&lt;br&gt;<br>
________________________&lt;br&gt;<br>
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<br>
Message: 3<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
From: Shannon McMackin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smcmackin@gmail.com">smcmackin=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Date: &nbsp;Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:33:06 -0500<br>
Subject: [ltp] Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)=
<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
Ahmad Amr wrote:<br>
&gt; Dear All,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkp=
ad<br>
&gt; T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t fi=
nd any<br>
&gt; answer, hope to find one here, thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Kind Regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ahmad Amr<br>
It should work if you install the backports package for your kernel. &nbsp;=
In<br>
8.04 you also needed the linux-ubuntu-modules package, but in 8.10 they<br>
did away with that package.<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 4<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
From: Shannon McMackin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:smcmackin@gmail.com">smcmackin=
@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Date: &nbsp;Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500<br>
Subject: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
Richard Neill wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wr=
ote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Hols=
chuh wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Degree would be this one: 10=B0C<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree symbol u=
sing us-intl?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-Internation=
al.svg" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-Internati=
onal.svg</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; At least the Glyph appears to be correct<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters). &nbsp;A trick someone =
told me<br>
&gt;&gt; (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested, and=
 it<br>
&gt;&gt; works<br>
&gt;&gt; as well as the vim key combo). &nbsp;I didn&#39;t try in the think=
pad, though.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I found it at AltGr-shift-0 &nbsp; (i.e. AltGr-rightparen &nbsp;)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Richard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
I can&#39;t seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.<br>
<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:58:24 +0100<br>
From: Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... &quot;bad&quot; (at least usi=
ng<br>
on-line shopping).<br>
<br>
I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm</a><br>
<br>
=A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
<br>
I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from IBM. Any experience<br>
using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
--<br>
Carles Pina i Estany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;GPG id: 0x177=
56391<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://pinux.info" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://pinux.info</a><br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 6<br>
From: &quot;Henrique de Moraes Holschuh&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hmh@hmh=
.eng.br">hmh@hmh.eng.br</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:11:43 -0200<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500, &quot;Shannon McMackin&quot; &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:smcmackin@gmail.com">smcmackin@gmail.com</a>=3D<br>
&gt; said:<br>
&gt; Richard Neill wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Per=
ez wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes=
 Holschuh wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Degree would be this one: 10=3DB0C<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree sym=
bol using us-in=3D<br>
tl?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-Intern=
ational.svg" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-Inte=
rnational.svg</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; At least the Glyph appears to be correct<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters). &nbsp;A trick som=
eone told me<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested=
, and it=3D<br>
=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; works<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; as well as the vim key combo). &nbsp;I didn&#39;t try in the =
thinkpad, though.<br>
&gt; &gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt; I found it at AltGr-shift-0 &nbsp; (i.e. AltGr-rightparen &nbsp;)=
<br>
&gt; &gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt; Richard<br>
&gt; &gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; I can&#39;t seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.<br>
<br>
T43, US keyboard: &nbsp;AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&amp;#730;), or AltGr-SHIFT-0 =
a (=3DE5), =3D<br>
etc.<br>
<br>
They made it into the ring accent :) &nbsp;At least now I know how to type =
the<br>
Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).<br>
<br>
So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processing.<br>
Hmm...<br>
<br>
--=3D20<br>
 &nbsp;&quot;One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to =
bring<br>
 &nbsp;them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond<br>
 &nbsp;where the shadows lie.&quot; -- The Silicon Valley Tarot<br>
 &nbsp;Henrique Holschuh<br>
<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 7<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:08:09 +0200<br>
From: Micha Feigin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michf@post.tau.ac.il">michf@post.t=
au.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)=
<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200<br>
Ahmad Amr &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br>
<br>
&gt; Dear All,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkp=
ad T60<br>
&gt; on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t find a=
ny answer,<br>
&gt; hope to find one here, thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
What wireless card do you have in there (at least with the t61 there are th=
ree<br>
different options).<br>
<br>
lspci | grep Ethernet<br>
should give you the answer.<br>
<br>
At least with intel iwl4965 I had to compile the compatwireless drivers wit=
h<br>
the led enabled. With madwifi and atheros it required setting sysctl variab=
les<br>
<br>
dev.wifi0.ledpin =3D 1<br>
dev.wifi0.softled =3D 3<br>
<br>
With ath5k I haven&#39;t managed to get it working with the in kernel drive=
rs yet<br>
and I&#39;m currently on 2.6.29-rc so the compatwireless drivers don&#39;t =
compile so I<br>
haven&#39;t delved into them at the moment<br>
<br>
&gt; Kind Regards,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ahmad Amr<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 8<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:27:21 +0100<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard@dds.nl</a><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a>,<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt;<br=
>
Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
&gt; IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... &quot;bad&quot; (at leas=
t using<br>
&gt; on-line shopping).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from IBM. Any experienc=
e<br>
&gt; using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)<br>
Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.<a href=3D"http://co.uk" target=3D"_blank">co=
.uk</a>)? The shipping to Spain can&#39;t be =3D20<br>
*that* bad.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 9<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:06:13 +0100<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...<br>
From: Daniel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:skorka@gmx.net">skorka@gmx.net</a>&gt;<b=
r>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 03:11:43PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote=
:<br>
&gt; T43, US keyboard: &nbsp;AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&amp;#730;), or AltGr-SHI=
FT-0 a (=E5), etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; They made it into the ring accent :) &nbsp;At least now I know how to =
type the<br>
&gt; Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).<br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processing=
.<br>
&gt; Hmm...<br>
<br>
Ok, this is getting seriously off-topic:<br>
<br>
I can&#39;t see any special processing going on; do<br>
$ xkbprint -ll 3 :0 <a href=3D"http://keyboardmap.ps" target=3D"_blank">key=
boardmap.ps</a><br>
and look at the file. You should see &#39;degree&#39; mentioned right on th=
e &#39;0&#39; key.<br>
In other words it&#39;s just the X servers keymap.<br>
<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Daniel<br>
--<br>
What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but<br>
if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be silent?<=
br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;-- Richard P. Feynman<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 10<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:59:07 +0100<br>
From: Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
On Jan/17/2009, <a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard@dds.nl</a> wrote:=
<br>
&gt;&gt; IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... &quot;bad&quot; (at =
least using<br>
&gt;&gt; on-line shopping).<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:=
<br>
&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm</a><br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; =A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from IBM. Any exper=
ience<br>
&gt;&gt; using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)<br>
&gt; Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.<a href=3D"http://co.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">co.uk</a>)? The shipping to Spain can&#39;t be<br>
&gt; *that* bad.<br>
<br>
well, same question: are these batteries reliable?<br>
I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching<br>
for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop?<br>
<br>
--<br>
Carles Pina i Estany &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;GPG id: 0x177=
56391<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<a href=3D"http://pinux.info" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://pinux.info</a><br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 11<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:14:46 +0100<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard@dds.nl</a><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a>,<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt;<br=
>
Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... &quot;bad&quot; =
(at least using<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; on-line shopping).<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have fo=
und:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm=
" target=3D"_blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm</a>=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from IBM. Any e=
xperience<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)=
<br>
&gt;&gt; Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.<a href=3D"http://co.uk" target=3D"_=
blank">co.uk</a>)? The shipping to Spain can&#39;t be<br>
&gt;&gt; *that* bad.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; well, same question: are these batteries reliable?<br>
&gt; I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching<=
br>
&gt; for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop=
?<br>
<br>
Here you go:<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptops=
AccessoriesQ=3D5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_sacat=
=3D3D0&amp;_fromfsb=3D3D&amp;_trksid=3D=3D3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odkw=3D3Dthinkp=
ad+t60+battery&amp;_osacat=3D3D0" target=3D"_blank">http://shop.ebay.co.uk/=
items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessoriesQ=3D<br>

5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_sacat=3D3D0&amp;_fromf=
sb=3D3D&amp;_trksid=3D<br>
=3D3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_osacat=3D3D0</a><br=
>
<br>
171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if =3D20<br=
>
not, you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you =3D20=
<br>
can always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.<br>
<br>
And (no offense meant) I&#39;ve never heard of fake or non-official laptop =
=3D20<br>
batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)<br>
<br>
Martin<br>
<br>
<br>
--__--__--<br>
<br>
Message: 12<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0100<br>
From: Pezhman Givy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phg@snafu.de">phg@snafu.de</a>&gt;=
<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: [ltp] ThinkVantage Key<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
Hash: SHA1<br>
<br>
Hi everybody,<br>
<br>
I would like to use the ThinkVantage key.<br>
ThinkWiki says the action triggered by the key can be configured by gnome S=
ystem -&gt; Preferences -&gt; Keyboard Shortcuts.<br>
But this does not work for me.<br>
<br>
xev doesn&#39;t see a key press when I press the ThinkVantage button.<br>
<br>
I tried<br>
<br>
xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_all_mask<br>
0x03ffffff<br>
xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# echo 0x03ffffff &gt; hotkey_mask<b=
r>
xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_mask<br>
0x03ffffff<br>
<br>
But still no key press will be seen by xev.<br>
<br>
Any suggestions to make the key work?<br>
<br>
Thank you<br>
<br>
Pezhman<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 13<br>
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:31 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD<br>
From: cupaxe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cupaxe@gmail.com">cupaxe@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
Hello everyone,<br>
<br>
Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On<br>
your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same<br>
exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for<br>
me, it didn&#39;t solve the problem.<br>
<br>
The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during<br>
the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it<br>
to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it<br>
goes blank is different for every reboot.<br>
<br>
Do you all still think it is an inverter problem? If not, then is it a<br>
backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to<br>
be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven&#39;t removed the<=
br>
LCD from the casing so I don&#39;t even know what lies behind it and how I<=
br>
can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and<br>
suggestions.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Krishna<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hmh@hmh.eng.br">hmh@hmh.eng.br</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, <a href=3D"mailto:bhaskins@chartermi.net">bhaskin=
s@chartermi.net</a> wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Many inverter problems are actually the cable that brings the powe=
r over to the inverter.<br>
&gt;&gt; A brand new out of the box white eraser can be used to remove the =
lead oxide that forms on the cable.<br>
&gt;&gt; Then too, sometimes the cable is broken, it flexes everytime that =
you open and close the lid.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Also, if you get anywhere near any solder joints on those cables (I do=
n&#39;t<br>
&gt; know if IBM used solder or proper connectors), be very sure to do a pe=
rfect<br>
&gt; job, without any sharp or pointy edges. &nbsp;Bad contact in the inver=
ter output<br>
&gt; (be it broken cable, connector, or bad solder joint) is a recipe for<b=
r>
&gt; disaster.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&quot;One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk=
 to bring<br>
&gt; &nbsp;them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond<=
br>
&gt; &nbsp;where the shadows lie.&quot; -- The Silicon Valley Tarot<br>
&gt; &nbsp;Henrique Holschuh<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-th=
inkpad" target=3D"_blank">http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinf=
o/linux-thinkpad</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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<br>
Message: 14<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100<br>
From: Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
On Jan/18/2009, <a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard@dds.nl</a> wrote:=
<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I hav=
e found:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60=
.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm=
</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from IBM. A=
ny experience<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode?=
 :-)<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.<a href=3D"http://co.uk" target=
=3D"_blank">co.uk</a>)? The shipping to Spain can&#39;t be<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; *that* bad.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; well, same question: are these batteries reliable?<br>
&gt;&gt; I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money search=
ing<br>
&gt;&gt; for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random =
shop?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Here you go:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLa=
ptopsAccessoriesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_sacat=
=3D0&amp;_fromfsb=3D&amp;_trksid=3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+batt=
ery&amp;_osacat=3D0" target=3D"_blank">http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_d=
mptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessoriesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3Dthinkpad+t=
60+battery&amp;_sacat=3D0&amp;_fromfsb=3D&amp;_trksid=3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odk=
w=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_osacat=3D0</a><br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if not=
,<br>
&gt; you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you can<b=
r>
&gt; always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for<br>
example)<br>
<br>
I&#39;m worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official from<=
br>
Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:<br>
<br>
-5200 mAh but they are less...<br>
-Battery gets hotter<br>
-More memory effect<br>
-Battery doesn&#39;t give good information to the laptop (battery remaing<b=
r>
and other information)<br>
-Gets broken before<br>
-...<br>
<br>
&gt; And (no offense meant) I&#39;ve never heard of fake or non-official la=
ptop<br>
&gt; batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)<br>
<br>
different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I&#39;m not=
<br>
battery expert I&#39;m asking if, as standard user, I will notice something=
.<br>
<br>
I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under<br>
Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing list.<br>
If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)<br>
<br>
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Message: 15<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:03:19 +0200<br>
From: Micha Feigin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michf@post.tau.ac.il">michf@post.t=
au.ac.il</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100<br>
Carles Pina i Estany &lt;carles@pina.cat&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; Hello,<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; On Jan/18/2009, <a href=3D"mailto:rappard@dds.nl">rappard@dds.nl</a> w=
rote:<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m searching a battery for a T-60. For example, =
I have found:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpa=
d-t60.htm" target=3D"_blank">http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t6=
0.htm</a><br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I cannot check if it&#39;s an official battery from I=
BM. Any experience<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will exp=
lode? :-)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.<a href=3D"http://co.uk" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">co.uk</a>)? The shipping to Spain can&#39;t be<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; *that* bad.<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; well, same question: are these batteries reliable?<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money s=
earching<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-ra=
ndom shop?<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Here you go:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputing=
Q5fLaptopsAccesso=3DriesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&am=
p;_sacat=3D3D0&amp;_fromfsb=3D3D&amp;_=3Dtrksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odkw=3D=
3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_osacat=3D3D0" target=3D"_blank">http://shop.eba=
y.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=3D<br>

riesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_sacat=3D3D0&amp;_=
fromfsb=3D3D&amp;_=3D<br>
trksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&amp;_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&amp;_osacat=3D3D0<=
/a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and i=
f not,=3D<br>
=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt; you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you =
can=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt; always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure=
.<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; I&#39;m not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for<b=
r>
&gt; example)<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; I&#39;m worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official =
from<br>
&gt; Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; -5200 mAh but they are less...<br>
&gt; -Battery gets hotter<br>
&gt; -More memory effect<br>
&gt; -Battery doesn&#39;t give good information to the laptop (battery rema=
ing<br>
&gt; and other information)<br>
&gt; -Gets broken before<br>
&gt; -...<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
<br>
The one laptop battery I bought some years back from ebay was fine. Bought<=
br>
locally from a friend who orders them from china and also had no problem.<b=
r>
<br>
There are two main issue that can come up,<br>
1. The battery is over rated (says 4000 and its 3000 mAh). Check what is th=
e<br>
expected capacity of the battery you are looking for. If they are rating it=
<br>
much higher then it&#39;s probably a fake (there is a limited capacity the<=
br>
batteries can have and assume that the manufacturer one almost achieves it)=
<br>
<br>
2. They may be old which means that they will die faster.<br>
<br>
On the other hand they can be 30%-50% cheaper. If they are too cheap it&#39=
;s a=3D<br>
lso<br>
suspicious. Check local prices for replacement batteries. Order from someon=
e<br>
with a lot of reviews.<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt; And (no offense meant) I&#39;ve never heard of fake or non-offici=
al laptop =3D<br>
=3D20<br>
&gt; &gt; batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I&#39;=
m not<br>
&gt; battery expert I&#39;m asking if, as standard user, I will notice some=
thing.<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
&gt; I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under=
<br>
&gt; Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing list=
.<br>
&gt; If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)<br>
&gt;=3D20<br>
<br>
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Message: 16<br>
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:23:06 +0000<br>
From: Richard Neill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk">rn214@her=
mes.cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpad@lin=
ux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD<br>
Reply-To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkp=
ad@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
cupaxe wrote:<br>
&gt; Hello everyone,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On=
<br>
&gt; your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same<b=
r>
&gt; exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for<b=
r>
&gt; me, it didn&#39;t solve the problem.<br>
<br>
That&#39;s a shame. It was a good chance, but not a certainty.<br>
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during<=
br>
&gt; the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it<=
br>
&gt; to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it<b=
r>
&gt; goes blank is different for every reboot.<br>
<br>
Just to check: I presume that these are various numbers of seconds,<br>
rather than minutes?<br>
<br>
&gt; Do you all still think it is an inverter problem?<br>
<br>
If you&#39;ve already replaced the inverter, then it probably isn&#39;t an<=
br>
inverter problem, and you need a new backlight.<br>
<br>
<br>
If not, then is it a<br>
&gt; backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to=
<br>
&gt; be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven&#39;t removed=
 the<br>
&gt; LCD from the casing so I don&#39;t even know what lies behind it and h=
ow I<br>
&gt; can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and<br>
&gt; suggestions.<br>
<br>
There&#39;s a good howto here:<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2007/12/09/replace-laptop-=
backlight-ccfl-lamp/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.laptoprepair101.com/lapt=
op/2007/12/09/replace-laptop-backlight-ccfl-lamp/</a><br>
<br>
Note: CCFLs contain mercury, which is moderately toxic. Try not to break<br=
>
the backlight. If you do, ventilate the area carefully before you return<br=
>
 &nbsp;to it.<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
<br>
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