[ltp] Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)

Micha Feigin linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:08:44 +0200


On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:43:30 +0200
Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net> wrote:

> Thanks for your answers guys, but actually none of these options worked w=
ith
> me! I have an Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01) a=
nd
> I'm using ndiswrapper to get it working properly (ndiswrapper made it work
> much better than madwifi or ath5k), any ideas? Can I enable the LED when
> using ndiswrapper?
>=20

No idea about ndiswrapper. I have very good experience with madwifi and the=
 led
does work (with proper syscfg settings). I've recently moved to ath5k since=
 I'm
on 2.6.29-rc kernels so it doesn't compile at the moment.

network manager was very unstable for me but wicd is working great. Never t=
ried
ndiswrapper but I prefer proper drivers if possible.

>=20
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM,
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> >   1. Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Ahmad Am=
r)
> >   2. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Dani=
el
> > Castro)
> >   3. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Shan=
non
> > McMackin)
> >   4. Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Shannon McMackin)
> >   5. battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
> >   6. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Henrique de Moraes Holschuh)
> >   7. Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) (Micha
> > Feigin)
> >   8. Re: battery questions (rappard@dds.nl)
> >   9. Re: Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals... (Daniel)
> >  10. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
> >  11. Re: battery questions (rappard@dds.nl)
> >  12. ThinkVantage Key (Pezhman Givy)
> >  13. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (cupaxe)
> >  14. Re: battery questions (Carles Pina i Estany)
> >  15. Re: battery questions (Micha Feigin)
> >  16. Re: Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD (Richard Neill)
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200
> > From: Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex)
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > --001636c5a7973838030460ad3474
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> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Thinkpad
> > T60
> > on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find any
> > answer,
> > hope to find one here, thanks!
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Ahmad Amr
> >
> > --001636c5a7973838030460ad3474
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> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > <div dir=3D"ltr">Dear All,<br><br>Does anyone have an idea how to get t=
he
> > wireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled
> > around a lot and didn&#39;t find any answer, hope to find one here,
> > thanks!<br>
> > <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Ahmad Amr<br></div>
> >
> > --001636c5a7973838030460ad3474--
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:35:39 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid I=
bex)
> > From: Daniel Castro <castromd@tcd.ie>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > --000e0cd250b8ea194a0460adc3e7
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > 2009/1/17 Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net>
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Think=
pad
> > > T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex??
> > >
> > i posted this on
> > Thinkwiki<
> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%2=
9_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_the_Atheros_cards
> > >....
> > it works for me on a T61 with an Atheros card...
> >
> > > I googled around a lot and didn't find any answer, hope to find one h=
ere,
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > hope it helps!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Ahmad Amr
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ________________________
> >
> > Daniel Castro, M.Sc.
> > +353 083-318-2058
> > dancasmo@gmail.com
> > castromd@tcd.ie
> > ________________________
> >
> > --000e0cd250b8ea194a0460adc3e7
> > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <br><br><div class=3D3D"gmail_quote">2009/1/17 Ahmad Amr <span
> > dir=3D3D"ltr">&l=3D
> > t;<a href=3D3D"mailto:aamr@fcih.net">aamr@fcih.net
> > </a>&gt;</span><br><blockqu=3D
> > ote class=3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204,
> > 204=3D
> > ); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> > <div dir=3D3D"ltr">Dear All,<br><br>Does anyone have an idea how to get=
 the
> > w=3D
> > ireless LED working on Thinkpad T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid
> > Ibex??</div></blockq=3D
> > uote><div>i posted <a href=3D3D"
> > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3D
> >
> > tu_8.10_%28Intrepid_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_wi=
th_t=3D<http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubun=3Dtu_8.10_%28Intrepid=
_Ibex%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#To_enable_the_Wifi_LED_with_t=3D>
> > he_Atheros_cards">this on Thinkwiki</a>.... it works for me on a T61 wi=
th
> > a=3D
> > n Atheros card... <br>
> > </div><blockquote class=3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"border-left: 1px s=
olid
> > rgb=3D
> > (204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div
> > dir=3D3D=3D
> > "ltr"> I googled around a lot and didn&#39;t find any answer, hope to f=
ind
> > =3D
> > one here, thanks!</div>
> > </blockquote><div>hope it helps! <br></div><blockquote
> > class=3D3D"gmail_quote=3D
> > " style=3D3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt=
 0pt
> > 0=3D
> >  .8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D3D"ltr"><br>
> > <br>Kind Regards,<br><br>Ahmad Amr<br></div>
> > </blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D3D"all"><br>--
> > <br>_______________________=3D
> > _<br><br>Daniel Castro, M.Sc.<br>+353 083-318-2058<br><a href=3D3D"mail=
to:
> > dan=3D
> > casmo@gmail.com">dancasmo@gmail.com</a><br><a href=3D3D"mailto:
> > castromd@tcd.i=3D
> > e">castromd@tcd.ie</a><br>
> > ________________________<br>
> >
> > --000e0cd250b8ea194a0460adc3e7--
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > From: Shannon McMackin <smcmackin@gmail.com>
> > Date:  Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:33:06 -0500
> > Subject: [ltp] Re: Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid I=
bex)
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > Ahmad Amr wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Think=
pad
> > > T60 on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find =
any
> > > answer, hope to find one here, thanks!
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Ahmad Amr
> > It should work if you install the backports package for your kernel.  In
> > 8.04 you also needed the linux-ubuntu-modules package, but in 8.10 they
> > did away with that package.
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 4
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > From: Shannon McMackin <smcmackin@gmail.com>
> > Date:  Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500
> > Subject: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > Richard Neill wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > >>>> On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wro=
te:
> > >>>>> Degree would be this one: 10=C2=B0C
> > >>>> And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree symbol using
> > us-intl?
> > >>>> (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)
> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-International.svg
> > >>>
> > >>> It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon
> > >>> At least the Glyph appears to be correct
> > >>
> > >> Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters).  A trick someone told me
> > >> (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.
> > >>
> > >> It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested, and it
> > >> works
> > >> as well as the vim key combo).  I didn't try in the thinkpad, though.
> > >
> > > I found it at AltGr-shift-0   (i.e. AltGr-rightparen  )
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
> > I can't seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:58:24 +0100
> > From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> > on-line shopping).
> >
> > I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> >
> > =C2=A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> >
> > I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
> >        http://pinux.info
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 6
> > From: "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:11:43 -0200
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:37:27 -0500, "Shannon McMackin" <
> > smcmackin@gmail.com=3D
> > > said:
> > > Richard Neill wrote:
> > > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Daniel wrote:
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 09:02:19PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > > >>>> On jeu, 2009-01-15 at 17:50 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > wrote:
> > > >>>>> Degree would be this one: 10=3DB0C
> > > >>>> And to continue on OT, how does one do the degree symbol using
> > us-in=3D
> > tl?
> > > >>>> (I mean us(altgr-intl) in fact)
> > > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_US-International.svg
> > > >>>
> > > >>> It would appear to be AltGr-Shift-Semicolon
> > > >>> At least the Glyph appears to be correct
> > > >>
> > > >> Me, I type CTRL-k DG in vim (case matters).  A trick someone told =
me
> > > >> (probably even in this ML) sometime ago.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is also AltGr-/ on my IBM keyboard, btw (and I just tested, and=
 it=3D
> > =3D20
> > > >> works
> > > >> as well as the vim key combo).  I didn't try in the thinkpad, thou=
gh .
> > > >=3D20
> > > > I found it at AltGr-shift-0   (i.e. AltGr-rightparen  )
> > > >=3D20
> > > > Richard
> > > >=3D20
> > > >=3D20
> > > I can't seem to find an equivalent on the thinkpad keyboard.
> >
> > T43, US keyboard:  AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&#730;), or AltGr-SHIFT-0 a (=
=3DE5),
> > =3D
> > etc.
> >
> > They made it into the ring accent :)  At least now I know how to type t=
he
> > Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).
> >
> > So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processing.
> > Hmm...
> >
> > --=3D20
> >  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
> >  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
> >  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
> >  Henrique Holschuh
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:08:09 +0200
> > From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Thinkpad T60 Wireless LED on Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid I=
bex)
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:55:28 +0200
> > Ahmad Amr <aamr@fcih.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Does anyone have an idea how to get the wireless LED working on Think=
pad
> > T60
> > > on Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex?? I googled around a lot and didn't find any
> > answer,
> > > hope to find one here, thanks!
> > >
> >
> > What wireless card do you have in there (at least with the t61 there are
> > three
> > different options).
> >
> > lspci | grep Ethernet
> > should give you the answer.
> >
> > At least with intel iwl4965 I had to compile the compatwireless drivers
> > with
> > the led enabled. With madwifi and atheros it required setting sysctl
> > variables
> >
> > dev.wifi0.ledpin =3D 1
> > dev.wifi0.softled =3D 3
> >
> > With ath5k I haven't managed to get it working with the in kernel drive=
rs
> > yet
> > and I'm currently on 2.6.29-rc so the compatwireless drivers don't comp=
ile
> > so I
> > haven't delved into them at the moment
> >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Ahmad Amr
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:27:21 +0100
> > From: rappard@dds.nl
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
> >        Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > > IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> > > on-line shopping).
> > >
> > > I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > > http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > >
> > > =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > >
> > > I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > > using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be =
=3D20
> > *that* bad.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:06:13 +0100
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: [OT] degrees, ordinals...
> > From: Daniel <skorka@gmx.net>
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 03:11:43PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > wrote:
> > > T43, US keyboard:  AltGr-SHIFT-0 SPACE (&#730;), or AltGr-SHIFT-0 a (=
=C3=A5),
> > etc.
> > >
> > > They made it into the ring accent :)  At least now I know how to type=
 the
> > > Angstrom symbol (not that I ever needed it, I prefer the SI units).
> > >
> > > So it looks like the keyboard itself does some of the AltGR processin=
g.
> > > Hmm...
> >
> > Ok, this is getting seriously off-topic:
> >
> > I can't see any special processing going on; do
> > $ xkbprint -ll 3 :0 keyboardmap.ps
> > and look at the file. You should see 'degree' mentioned right on the '0'
> > key.
> > In other words it's just the X servers keymap.
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > Daniel
> > --
> > What men are poets who can speak of Jupiter if he were like a man, but
> > if he is an immense spinning sphere of methane and ammonia must be sile=
nt?
> >        -- Richard P. Feynman
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:59:07 +0100
> > From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Jan/17/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
> > >> IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> > >> on-line shopping).
> > >>
> > >> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > >> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > >>
> > >> =C2=A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > >>
> > >> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > >> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > > Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> > > *that* bad.
> >
> > well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> > for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random shop?
> >
> > --
> > Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
> >        http://pinux.info
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:14:46 +0100
> > From: rappard@dds.nl
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org,
> >        Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > >>> IBM/Lenovo distributors in Spain are quite... "bad" (at least using
> > >>> on-line shopping).
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > >>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > >>>
> > >>> =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > >>>
> > >>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > >>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > >> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> > >> *that* bad.
> > >
> > > well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > > I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> > > for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random sho=
p?
> >
> > Here you go:
> >
> >
> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=
riesQ=3D
> >
> > 5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=
=3D3D&_trksid=3D
> > =3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0<http://sho=
p.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccessoriesQ=3D5fLapt=
opBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=3D3D&_trksi=
d=3D=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0>
> >
> > 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if =3D20
> > not, you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you =
=3D20
> > can always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
> >
> > And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official laptop =
=3D20
> > batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:46:22 +0100
> > From: Pezhman Givy <phg@snafu.de>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: [ltp] ThinkVantage Key
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > I would like to use the ThinkVantage key.
> > ThinkWiki says the action triggered by the key can be configured by gno=
me
> > System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts.
> > But this does not work for me.
> >
> > xev doesn't see a key press when I press the ThinkVantage button.
> >
> > I tried
> >
> > xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_all_mask
> > 0x03ffffff
> > xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# echo 0x03ffffff > hotkey_mask
> > xxx:/sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi# cat hotkey_mask
> > 0x03ffffff
> >
> > But still no key press will be seen by xev.
> >
> > Any suggestions to make the key work?
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > Pezhman
> >
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> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:50:31 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD
> > From: cupaxe <cupaxe@gmail.com>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On
> > your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same
> > exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for
> > me, it didn't solve the problem.
> >
> > The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during
> > the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it
> > to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it
> > goes blank is different for every reboot.
> >
> > Do you all still think it is an inverter problem? If not, then is it a
> > backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to
> > be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven't removed the
> > LCD from the casing so I don't even know what lies behind it and how I
> > can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Krishna
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > <hmh@hmh.eng.br> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008, bhaskins@chartermi.net wrote:
> > >> Many inverter problems are actually the cable that brings the power =
over
> > to the inverter.
> > >> A brand new out of the box white eraser can be used to remove the le=
ad
> > oxide that forms on the cable.
> > >> Then too, sometimes the cable is broken, it flexes everytime that you
> > open and close the lid.
> > >
> > > Also, if you get anywhere near any solder joints on those cables (I d=
on't
> > > know if IBM used solder or proper connectors), be very sure to do a
> > perfect
> > > job, without any sharp or pointy edges.  Bad contact in the inverter
> > output
> > > (be it broken cable, connector, or bad solder joint) is a recipe for
> > > disaster.
> > >
> > > --
> > >  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
> > >  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
> > >  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
> > >  Henrique Holschuh
> > > --
> > > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
> > > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
> > >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 14
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100
> > From: Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Jan/18/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
> >
> > >>>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > >>>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > >>>>
> > >>>> =C2=A3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experience
> > >>>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > >>> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't be
> > >>> *that* bad.
> > >>
> > >> well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > >> I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money searching
> > >> for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random sh=
op?
> > >
> > > Here you go:
> > >
> > >
> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=
riesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D0&_fromfsb=3D&_=
trksid=3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D0
> > >
> > > 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if no=
t,
> > > you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you can
> > > always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
> >
> > I'm not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for
> > example)
> >
> > I'm worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official from
> > Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:
> >
> > -5200 mAh but they are less...
> > -Battery gets hotter
> > -More memory effect
> > -Battery doesn't give good information to the laptop (battery remaing
> > and other information)
> > -Gets broken before
> > -...
> >
> > > And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official laptop
> > > batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
> >
> > different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I'm not
> > battery expert I'm asking if, as standard user, I will notice something.
> >
> > I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under
> > Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing list.
> > If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)
> >
> > --
> > Carles Pina i Estany            GPG id: 0x17756391
> >        http://pinux.info
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 15
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 03:03:19 +0200
> > From: Micha Feigin <michf@post.tau.ac.il>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] battery questions
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> > On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:55:34 +0100
> > Carles Pina i Estany <carles@pina.cat> wrote:
> >
> > >=3D20
> > > Hello,
> > >=3D20
> > > On Jan/18/2009, rappard@dds.nl wrote:
> > >=3D20
> > > >>>> I'm searching a battery for a T-60. For example, I have found:
> > > >>>> http://www.batteriesshop.co.uk/ibm-thinkpad-t60.htm
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> =3DC2=3DA3 45.5,, 50 Euros, 67 Dollars
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I cannot check if it's an official battery from IBM. Any experie=
nce
> > > >>>> using a non-official batteries? Same? Worse? Will explode? :-)
> > > >>> Why not buy one on eBay(.com/.co.uk)? The shipping to Spain can't=
 be
> > > >>> *that* bad.
> > > >>
> > > >> well, same question: are these batteries reliable?
> > > >> I mean, should I really prefer to spend some time and money search=
ing
> > > >> for a IBM/Lenovo original battery or I choose in some semi-random
> > shop?
> > > >
> > > > Here you go:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=
=3D
> >
> > riesQ5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_from=
fsb=3D3D&_=3D
> > trksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0<http=
://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/_W0QQ_dmptZUKQ5fComputingQ5fLaptopsAccesso=3DriesQ=
5fLaptopBatteries?_nkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_sacat=3D3D0&_fromfsb=3D3D&=
_=3Dtrksid=3D3Dm270.l1313&_odkw=3D3Dthinkpad+t60+battery&_osacat=3D3D0>
> > > >
> > > > 171 results right now, at least *one* them has to reliable (and if
> > not,=3D
> > =3D20
> > > > you can always reverse the PayPal charges). Other than that, you ca=
n=3D20
> > > > always buy straight from IBM/Lenovo if you really want to be sure.
> > >=3D20
> > > I'm not worried about buying in ebay (I have done it before, for
> > > example)
> > >=3D20
> > > I'm worried if the batteries that I can buy that are not official from
> > > Lenovo/IBM will have less quality. Things like:
> > >=3D20
> > > -5200 mAh but they are less...
> > > -Battery gets hotter
> > > -More memory effect
> > > -Battery doesn't give good information to the laptop (battery remaing
> > > and other information)
> > > -Gets broken before
> > > -...
> > >=3D20
> >
> > The one laptop battery I bought some years back from ebay was fine. Bou=
ght
> > locally from a friend who orders them from china and also had no proble=
m.
> >
> > There are two main issue that can come up,
> > 1. The battery is over rated (says 4000 and its 3000 mAh). Check what is
> > the
> > expected capacity of the battery you are looking for. If they are ratin=
g it
> > much higher then it's probably a fake (there is a limited capacity the
> > batteries can have and assume that the manufacturer one almost achieves=
 it)
> >
> > 2. They may be old which means that they will die faster.
> >
> > On the other hand they can be 30%-50% cheaper. If they are too cheap it=
's
> > a=3D
> > lso
> > suspicious. Check local prices for replacement batteries. Order from
> > someone
> > with a lot of reviews.
> >
> > > > And (no offense meant) I've never heard of fake or non-official lap=
top
> > =3D
> > =3D20
> > > > batteries - that sounds like a niche of a niche. ;-)
> > >=3D20
> > > different manufacturers can have different qualities. But since I'm n=
ot
> > > battery expert I'm asking if, as standard user, I will notice somethi=
ng .
> > >=3D20
> > > I think that this is a bit off-topic (but I will use the battery under
> > > Linux :-) ) so I will not send more mails about it in the mailing lis=
t.
> > > If someone has any experience, feel free to share here :-)
> > >=3D20
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 16
> > Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 02:23:06 +0000
> > From: Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Replacing the backlight of the thinkpad LCD
> > Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> >
> >
> >
> > cupaxe wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Thank you so much for all your helpful suggestions and tips so far. On
> > > your suggestion, I purchased and replaced the inverter with the same
> > > exact model number (second hand though) from eBay. Unfortunately for
> > > me, it didn't solve the problem.
> >
> > That's a shame. It was a good chance, but not a certainty.
> >
> > >
> > > The display starts off fine, bright and clear. At random times during
> > > the boot, it just goes completely blank and has to be rebooted for it
> > > to appear again. The exact time from the start of the reboot when it
> > > goes blank is different for every reboot.
> >
> > Just to check: I presume that these are various numbers of seconds,
> > rather than minutes?
> >
> > > Do you all still think it is an inverter problem?
> >
> > If you've already replaced the inverter, then it probably isn't an
> > inverter problem, and you need a new backlight.
> >
> >
> > If not, then is it a
> > > backlight problem? I then need to replace the backlight which seems to
> > > be very complicated from the looks for it. I still haven't removed the
> > > LCD from the casing so I don't even know what lies behind it and how I
> > > can get to the backlight. Looking forward to all your guidance and
> > > suggestions.
> >
> > There's a good howto here:
> >
> > http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2007/12/09/replace-laptop-backlig=
ht-ccfl-lamp/
> >
> > Note: CCFLs contain mercury, which is moderately toxic. Try not to break
> > the backlight. If you do, ventilate the area carefully before you return
> >  to it.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > --
> > The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
> > http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
> >
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> >
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