[ltp] New hard drive for T61

Florian Manschwetus linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:53:24 +0100


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Am 25.10.2009 18:00, schrieb John Jason Jordan:
> I can't find the 7K500; only the 7K320. The reviews on the 7K320 seem
> pretty good - not as many failures as the Seagate. And 320 GB is all I
> need anyway.
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> How is the 7K320 for speed?
Great, personally I use the previous revision, 7k200, in my T60 a
unbelievable boost compared with the original 5k100.
My father uses the 7k320 in his T61 same result.

7k500
http://www.hitachigst.com/portal/site/en/products/travelstar/7K500/

Florian
>=20
>=20
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:08:21 +0100
> Florian Manschwetus <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> dijo:
>=20
>> I would suggest to buy a 7k500 from hitachi, they are supported out of=

>> the box including hdaps. Never have had trouble with 7k200, 7k320
>> personally I not have had my hands on a 7k500 ones but no idea why the=
re
>> should be a difference.
>>
>> Florian
>>
>> Am 24.10.2009 22:48, schrieb John Jason Jordan:
>>> Thanks for the information. I was considering the Seagate Momentus 74=
00
>>> rpm 500 GB drive. It's good to hear that it works well in a T61.
>>>
>>> However, I just finished reading reviews on Newegg.com. There are abo=
ut
>>> 250 reviews. It seems people give it top rating or bottom rating, wit=
h
>>> few in between. The bottom raters all had their drive fail after a fe=
w
>>> days to a few months. If the reviews are a guide, the failure rate
>>> seems to be about 20%.=20
>>>
>>> But I am wondering if the G version has the same issues.=20
>>>
>>> I agree with your view on impressions v. numbers. I don't care about
>>> numbers either. If it feels faster, that is what I am looking for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:11:54 +0200
>>> Paul Seelig <pseelig@rumbero.es> dijo:
>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> i bought a bigger replacement drive and, in a second step, a
>>>> second faster one just a few months ago. Both times it was a
>>>> Seagate Momentus 500GB disk in its G version, in order to have
>>>> the drive itself take care of any gravitational issues. First
>>>> drive was the 5400rpm speed version, and the second one the
>>>> faster 7200rpm speed version. There actually is a speed
>>>> difference, as the system does feel more responsive thanks to the
>>>> faster disk (running Debian/unstable). As an added benefit, the
>>>> 7200rpm disk comes with a 5 year warranty.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't bother to measure it, because i am not at all interested
>>>> in any numbers. Don't even really care about whether disk has
>>>> 3.0Gbit/sec or 1.5Gbits/sec throughput. Just being able to simply
>>>> feel the enhanced responsiveness was already enough for me to be
>>>> content with the doubled disk upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> The slower 5400GB Momentus is now in some cheap "Ultrabay Slim
>>>> SATA HDD Adapter II" imitation. I had to put a jumper on the disk
>>>> to limit its speed to a 1.5 Gb/s data rate, because there was an
>>>> issue for it being recognized by the T61 BIOS 3 (or even 4) out
>>>> of 5 times during startup.
>>>>
>>>> The jumpering solution for this issue is fully described here:
>>>>
>>>> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=3D=
193775
>>>> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=3D=
168595
>>>>
>>>> Might be worth to have this info added to ThinkWiki by some kind sou=
l.
>>>>
>>>> In any case, it is nice to have so much superfluous disk space
>>>> available for some KVM virtual machines or simply for scratch,
>>>> using the second disk primarily as an almost identical backup
>>>> device by mirroring.
>>>>
>>>> No, i don't endorse Seagate disks for any economic interest, but
>>>> i do happen to like their Momentus series quite a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> P. *8^)
>>>>
>>>> John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>>>> When Karmic goes final next week I plan to do a reinstall. But inst=
ead
>>>>> of wiping the 160 GB hard drive that came with my T61 I want to buy=
 a
>>>>> new drive, then put the old drive in a USB enclosure. After the new=

>>>>> install I'll copy over ~/ and perhaps other things as needed to get=

>>>>> things back to the way they currently are (installed programs, etc.=
).
>>>>>
>>>>> Normally I do a dist-upgrade, but for some time I have been having
>>>>> issues with Xorg or Gnome or something on Jaunty. I have spent enti=
re
>>>>> days trying to fix it, but there are literally hundreds of librarie=
s,
>>>>> modules, configurations and so on. I give up.=20
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like a somewhat larger hard disk than the Hitachi 5416 that cam=
e
>>>>> with the Thinkpad, maybe around 300 GB. From past discussions that =
I
>>>>> have read here there are a couple issues:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) My dim understanding is that Lenovo did something in the BIOS so=

>>>>> that only hard drives bought from them will work. However, I think =
that
>>>>> is not entirely correct.=20
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) I understand that my T61 has a SATA-2 controller, but Lenovo
>>>>> throttled it to no more than 100 Mb/s. Hence, there is no point in
>>>>> getting a faster hard disk. Yet there may be other issues that woul=
d
>>>>> make disk access faster. If possible, I would like as fast a disk a=
s
>>>>> possible, given the controller situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> So my question is: Are there any T61 users here who have installed
>>>>> larger hard disks? If so, what did you install, and are you happy w=
ith
>>>>> its performance?
>>>> --=20
>>>> The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
>>>> http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad
>>
>>
>>



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