[ltp] Selecting a new Thinkpad
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Wed, 3 Sep 2014 09:01:08 -0400
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hello guys,
the clickpad situation is a little more bearable with the new
xf86-input-synaptics
and a newish kernel. that said, it is still unacceptable (as tested on a
co-worker laptop).
this is surely off-topic for this list, but given the circumstances, does
anyone know of any other vendor that sells something comparable to the
t4xx? i'm thinking Dell, but they do have a lot of options and having used
thinkpads for so long i'm a little lost.
thanks for any help.
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Chuck Aurora <cba@isc.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:45AM +0200, Leon Weber wrote:
> > On 07.08.2014 22:27:49, Joerg Bruehe wrote:
> > > 2) Mouse buttons
> > > The new Thinkpad models do not have mouse buttons any more, AIUI
> > > clicking the touchpad shall have the mouse button effect. Does
> > > that work reliably with current Linux distros (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS),
> > > including the middle button?
> >
> > There are different configs around in the internet to disable the
> > touchpad and only use it as mouse buttons. However, the haptic
>
> I do this. It's disappointing. Using it as a touchpad, OTOH, was
> unbearable due to stray clicks causing much loss of work. I never
> knew when it would strike.
>
> > experience of these softbuttons is a joke compared to the old-style
> > mouse buttons. Performing a mouse click takes much more power, it
> > makes a cheap sounding noise, and at least with my config, I=E2=80=99m
> > having a hard time reliably performing right clicks. It=E2=80=99s real=
ly
> > sad.
>
> ++
>
> > It took me a long time to get used to that touchpad. There are
>
> I'm still not used to it. Otherwise the T440p has been a fine
> machine, but ugh, I wish the Lenovo people would LISTEN to their
> paying customers and do away with this abomination.
>
> > rumors about the next generation of Thinkpads reintroducing mouse
> > buttons. I don=E2=80=99t know if they=E2=80=99re true, but if they are=
, I
> > definitely recommend waiting for those models.
>
> Or start looking at other manufacturers. I'm afraid that will be the
> only way to convince Lenovo to fix the problem: to hurt their sales.
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face=3D"tahoma, sans-serif">hello guys,</font></font></div><div class=3D"g=
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sans-serif;line-height:16.5454540252686px">-</span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:arial,sans-serif;line-height:16.5454540252686px">synaptics and a newish =
kernel. =C2=A0that said, it is still unacceptable (as tested on a co-worker=
laptop).</span></font></div>
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mily:arial,sans-serif;line-height:16.5454540252686px"><br></span></font></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0b5394" face=3D"arial, sans=
-serif"><span style=3D"line-height:16.5454540252686px">this is surely off-t=
opic for this list, but given the circumstances, does anyone know of any ot=
her vendor that sells something comparable to the t4xx? =C2=A0i'm think=
ing Dell, but they do have a lot of options and having used thinkpads for s=
o long i'm a little lost.</span></font></div>
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><div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0b5394" face=3D"arial, sans-s=
erif"><span style=3D"line-height:16.5454540252686px">thanks for any help.</=
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On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Chuck Aurora <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:cba@isc.org" target=3D"_blank">cba@isc.org</a>></span> wrote:=
<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"">On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:45AM +0200, Leon Weber wrote:=
<br>
> On 07.08.2014 22:27:49, Joerg Bruehe wrote:<br>
> > 2) Mouse buttons<br>
> > The new Thinkpad models do not have mouse buttons any more, AIUI<=
br>
> > clicking the touchpad shall have the mouse button effect. Does<br=
>
> > that work reliably with current Linux distros (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS),=
<br>
> > including the middle button?<br>
><br>
> There are different configs around in the internet to disable the<br>
> touchpad and only use it as mouse buttons.=C2=A0 However, the haptic<b=
r>
<br>
</div>I do this.=C2=A0 It's disappointing.=C2=A0 Using it as a touchpad=
, OTOH, was<br>
unbearable due to stray clicks causing much loss of work.=C2=A0 I never<br>
knew when it would strike.<br>
<div class=3D""><br>
> experience of these softbuttons is a joke compared to the old-style<br=
>
> mouse buttons.=C2=A0 Performing a mouse click takes much more power, i=
t<br>
> makes a cheap sounding noise, and at least with my config, I=E2=80=99m=
<br>
> having a hard time reliably performing right clicks.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99=
s really<br>
> sad.<br>
<br>
</div>++<br>
<div class=3D""><br>
> It took me a long time to get used to that touchpad.=C2=A0 There are<b=
r>
<br>
</div>I'm still not used to it.=C2=A0 Otherwise the T440p has been a fi=
ne<br>
machine, but ugh, I wish the Lenovo people would LISTEN to their<br>
paying customers and do away with this abomination.<br>
<div class=3D""><br>
> rumors about the next generation of Thinkpads reintroducing mouse<br>
> buttons.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know if they=E2=80=99re true, but if th=
ey are, I<br>
> definitely recommend waiting for those models.<br>
<br>
</div>Or start looking at other manufacturers.=C2=A0 I'm afraid that wi=
ll be the<br>
only way to convince Lenovo to fix the problem: to hurt their sales.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">--<br>
The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:<br>
<a href=3D"http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpa=
d" target=3D"_blank">http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/lin=
ux-thinkpad</a><br>
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