[ltp] 770X Error codes?
Kelvin KAN
linux-thinkpad@www.bm-soft.com
Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:51:13 +0000
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So can anyone suggest how to avoid touching lm_sensors, if the consequenc=
e is
so terrible?
Or are we forced to play/confront with lm_sensors at some stages of booti=
ng
Linux with certain configs? Will we be prompted to start/config lm_senso=
rs or
not while booting Linux?
I am worried because I selected nearly all packages at installation time =
that
there is a great chance I installed lm_sensors.
Thanks!
-
kelvin.
On Jul 19, 3:19am, Bjorn Knutsson wrote:
> Subject: Re: [ltp] 770X Error codes?
>
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Fabrice Bellet wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 15, 2000 at 09:08:43PM +0200, Bill Mair wrote:
> > > Fabrice Bellet wrote:
> > >
> > > When did you do this ?
> > > And when were you aware of this problem ?
> > > Why didn't you warn us here on the list that playing around with th=
e I2C
> > > lm_sensors stuff breaks ThinkPads ?
> > >
> > > I'm now I'm really worried about the 2.4 kernel, if any distributio=
n
> > > enables
> > > this stuff by default and probes the I2C bus looking for lm_sensors=
> > > support
> > > will this then break my ThinkPad ???
> > >
> > > Oh god, life is about to get very complicated installing V2.4.x ker=
nel
> > > based
> > > distributions...
> >
> [Stuff deleted]
> > I suggested to the lm_sensors maintainer, that there could be
> > a problem with the eeprom module. He told me that two things could
> > have happened :
> > 1 : the SMBus got locked in a state that makes it impossible
> > to read from it. the motherboard serial numbers are
> > unaccessible.
> > A cold reboot could help : removing all power supply, waiting
> > a few minutes and reinserting them.
> > 2 : EEPROM data got mangled. The maintainer thinks this is very
> > unlikely, because the eeprom module in lm_sensors
> > has no write capability (a the time of writing, ie January).
> >
> > The first case didn't really fit with what I experienced, because
> > removing power supply did not help me. But there may be another
> > sort of internal battery the PIIX4 bus may be connected on...
>
> I can't tell which, but I can relate my own tale of woe.
>
> My machine, a 600X, refused to boot with the very same errors about a m=
onth
> after I got it, and now that I think about it, I did play around with
> lm_sensors prior to the reboot after which this problem manifested itse=
lf.
>
> I never got lm_sensors to give me any interesting info, so I removed th=
em
> before rebooting. I guess this is why I never had the problem more than=
this
> one time.
>
> I'd advise all Thinkpad owners to stay clear of lm_sensors. Also, I que=
stion
> the wisdom of building a machine that can be totally and unrecoverably
disabled
> by software. I'm all for software upgradeable BIOSes and stuff, but the=
re
must
> be a ROM in there somewhere; why not put a small bootstrap in it that a=
llows
> the user to rewrite thrashed EEPROMs from, say, a floppy?
>
> /Bj=F6rn
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