[ltp] Redhat 7.0 to 7.2: a bit of history please?

[Tod Harter]

Well, I have to agree that too many people are trying to device "swiss army 
knife" applications as I would put it, but the CONCEPT of a component 
framework isn't necessarily all bad. Konqy itself doesn't really do a HUGE 
amount, it just relies on "kparts" for various specific kinds of services. 
For instance the way you can browse ANY sort of URL is not specific to any 
one KDE program, its a feature of the "kio" subsystem (you can program a 
slave to let kio based programs access any type of data source via a "URL").

I guess I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. The truth is that 96 
megs is really not enough ram these days for a fully featured modern desktop 
environment :(. 

Personally I like KDE better than Gnome though, it seems to be somewhat more 
memory efficient. My 380D with 96 megs and Mandrake 8 doesn't seem 
particularly slow, BUT you do have to be careful to limit the services you 
run. Web browsers these days all seem to hog ram like its going out of style. 
Mozilla has improved a lot lately, but with 96 megs its still pushing the 
limits.

On Tuesday 04 December 2001 22:11, you wrote:
> I have a comparable machine (570 with 333MHz PII and 128MB) running RH 7.2
> and if I let Nautilus get going it is a nightmare. It hogs memory (both in
> stand-alone state and when Nautilus-Mozilla fires up). The safest thing is
> to delete it from the startup list in Session Properties and save your
> session. Unfortunately, if you want to use the Gnome Help System the way
> it is intended to be used, Nautilus will still start up and it is really
> hard to kill. I actually use Netscape to read the Gnome Help stuff. It is
> not integrated into Gnome, so you have to search around for the link you
> need, but anything beats letting Nautilus loose on your system. (By the
> way, using TOP or whatever to figure out how much of your system resources
> Nautilus is using is not easy. Multithreading etc. makes it really
> confusing. If it looks like things are going slow, they probably are.)
>
> I guess this is the way Linux is going. (Konqueror in KDE doesn't seem any
> better.) It is the all-embracing "cracking wallnuts with sledgehammers"
> approach that drove people like me away from Windows. I don't want an
> integrated file-manager/browsing/editing/mail/calendar/coffee-making
> application. Luckily, unlike Windows, Linux still lets you escape from the
> sledgehammers if you need to.
>
> Steve Gregory
>
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Jean-Philippe Jung
>
> (Home) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > My 380Z is a P-II 233 with 96 MB Ram. I have close to 1 month experience
> > with Linux :)
> >
> > I tried RedHat 7.2 and I like it (besides I have no sound). I just find
> > Gnome terribly slow (e.g. worse than W2K Pro).
> > Just tried Redhat 7.0 and I have a very fast and responsive Gnome (as
> > good as W98, way more reliable, still no sound :-).
> >
> > Can someone tell me what changes occured between the two versions of RH
> > that made such a drastic change? Is it the Nautilus use?
> > And next question is: what do you recommend: stick to RH 7.2 and disable
> > Nautilus (and how to do that, if possible), or stick with 7.0 and just
> > update kernels, X and Gnome, but retaining the old manager?
> >
> > Is there any good to go with kernels 2.4 with that processor / memory
> > config?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jean-Philippe.
> >
> >
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