Well just beat the dead horse. Apm is doing it's job properly. While in console mode I have had no hangs. In X, hangs happended after a period of local (keyboard,mouse) inactivity. -- hal king Unix System Group pgp key http://web.utk.edu/~hck/hal.asc No hot dog, email. ----- The Linux ThinkPad mailing list ----- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at: http://www.bm-soft.com/~bm/tp_mailing.html