[ltp] Using "setserial /dev/ttyS* autoconfig" without root

[Paul Timmins]

export EDITOR="blah"
visudo

Where blah is the name of the editor you want to run. This works for
many command line applications, including "crontab -e" among others.
This works in many other unices as well, not just Linux.
-Paul

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 07:14, unlisted wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 13:39, Julian Macassey wrote:
> > On 2002-09-23 at 07:05, unlisted (*@*.*) wrote:
> > > i HATE visudo.  yep, i read the manpage when i first began using sudo. 
> > > yep, i tried visudo when i first began using sudo.  yep, i STILL think
> > > visudo is an utter piece of junk because by default it uses vi, and not
> > > something on the usability level of window's notepad.
> > 
> > 		I suppose it depends on how you define
> > "usability". Windows notepad does not work from any terminal, any
> > keyboard over any link - even 45 baud. vi does all of that. I can
> > manage machines across cheesy dialups, frame relay, anything with
> > vi.
> 
> sorry, but i have to laugh.  not "usefulness" (which is what you are
> describing), as in how useful it is (in many different situations), but
> "usability", ie "ease of use", intuitiveness, etc.
> 
> in windows notepad, if you want to move to the next line, you press the
> down arrow.  if you want to move a character to the right, you press the
> right arrow.  if you want to insert a space, you press the space bar. 
> if you want to delete a character, you... nevermind, i don't think linux
> will ever get the backspace/delete key fiasco straightened out. ;-)
> 
> and if you want to cut & paste, you don't even have to know ctrl+x or
> ctrl+v, you just go up to the menu bar and select it from a drop-down
> menu.  now enters a slight problem: how to reveal to the user a set of
> options for him to pick from (which is what a menu bar does).  there are
> console-based applications that do this (mcedit, the editor for midnight
> commander), but either you have to already know a short-cut key to bring
> up the editor (or may i recommend the use of esc, which <sarcasm> could
> actually "escape" from the current editing session and display a menu
> bar, or even a help screen </sarcasm>.  or at least let the user be able
> to easily access help.  joe does this well, by listing the shortcut key
> to help at the top of the screen.  (vim, a descendent of and replacement
> for (at least on my debian box) vi, does display an informative splash
> screen when the editor is started without a file specified [command-line
> argument], but doesn't do this when started from sudo because the
> sudoers file is specified.)
> 
> but hopefully you get the picture.
> 
> > 	There are unix/linux versions of Windows Notepad. They
> > may be wonderful when you are sitting on the console, or using X
> > on a LAN. But they suck when it comes to remote admin, which is
> > still the strength of Linux.
> 
> i won't argue the flexibility and usefulness of vi over notepad (heck,
> in a more general sense, that's the entire reason why i switched from
> windows to linux), but you got stuck on the fact that notepad is a gui
> editor (which wasn't my point at all) and missed my point (ease of use,
> simplicity in the user interface, which should be the mantra of security
> applications) entirely.
> 
> anyways...
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