[ltp] T40 / Pentium M and Linux
D. Sen
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sat, 29 Mar 2003 03:57:19 +1100
When IBM advertised Thinkpads with Linux pre-installed, the choice of
hardware was very limited....and that is an understatement. For every
linux pre-installed machine there was 5 windows pre-installed machine
with choices of peripherals. While I would have loved to have bought a
linux pre-installed machine, I would not have had my choice of
peripherals (screen size & resolution, CPU speed, etc). It was quite
ridiculous as it seemed like the marketing people were telling us: "You
can buy a linux pre-installed machine but this is the choice of CPU
speed, screen size, peripherals that you will be forced to use". This
pretty much forced me to buy a windows pre-installed machine.
My point (if its not already clear) is that if IBM didnt have much
success in selling Linux pre-install, its not necessarily a reflection
on a lack of linux market. Give us the same choice that windows users
get and you might see a totally different result.
DS
Greg Herlein wrote:
> I have an R32 and it's great, and the one time I called in for
> tech support they were helpful and when I said I had linux
> installed the support engineer said "cool!" Now, my issue was a
> question of some BIOS settings to try to make vmware happy, so
> having linux was not an issue.
>
> But, we in the linux community should chill out a bit when it
> comes to demands. Frankly, support call centers are expensive,
> and tech support is often a thnakless job that is hard to get
> good people for.
>
> Places that do provide linux support have a challenging
> task. Every damn distro does things differently. I personally
> can't stand Red Hat - I'm a SuSE fan. I've seen Mandrake, RH,
> SuSE, Debian, etc all on this list, all with various kernel
> levels. That variation alone is nearly as bad as the whole Win32
> family of variables - that's a lot of different systems to expect
> a tech support staff to keep track of.
>
> Now, add the notion that linux folks often compile thier own
> kernels and install their own system-level libraries. Gee, now
> how do you support that? Having tries to support linux drivers
> in the past, that gets complicated. It often boils down to "send
> me your .config file and I'll see if I can reproduce your
> kernel" - which gets really ugly if the user patched the kernel.
>
> This is why vmware, for example, will only support it if you are
> on a certified linux distro. If you are on your own kernel or
> customized system, they can't promise they can help you.
>
> That said, I think that companies need to hear that we *are* a
> market for them. Any time you interact with these companies you
> need to tell them that you are a linux user. Only when the
> marketing droids hear it often enough will they suddenly say
> "gee, we have to take care of this market."
>
> Greg
>
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D. Sen,
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