Windows tax (Re: [ltp] T40 / Pentium M and Linux)

[Matthew T. Brewer]

I played with the restore function on my T30 using the builtin tools - and
it doesn't appear to work after you've repartitioned a drive. So I don't
think it will work in your situation.

On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Ron Joffe wrote:

>
> On Friday 28 March 2003 01:56 pm, Tod Harter wrote:
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > I've heard its impossible, that MS is so obfuscatory that you essentially
> > cannot do it. They've been sued and there have been some other 'actions'
> > people have taken (like IIRC there was a 'license day' when 1000's of
> > people all planned on showing up at the address of the office MS claims was
> > where you could do it in person. MS reportedly closed that office a few
> > days before the event was supposed to take place).
> >
> > My guess is you will have to spend hours of work doing it, to the point
> > where it isn't really worth it. Though maybe they've been beat up enough
> > lately on the issue to have improved. Try it and let us know what happens!
> > :o).
> >
> > On Friday 28 March 2003 01:10 pm, Bob Toxen wrote:
> > > Has anyone (who uas refused the EULA) tried to get their license money
> > > back from IBM (or MS) as the EULA promises that they can?
> > >
> > > What was the response?
> > >
> > > I've refused the EULA and want my license fee back.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Bob Toxen,
> > > http://www.verysecurelinux.com       [Network & Linux/Unix Security
> > > Consulting] Author,
> > > "Real World Linux Security: Intrusion Detection, Prevention, and
> > > Recovery" 2nd Ed., Prentice Hall, (C) 2003, 848 pages, ISBN: 0130464562
>
> I've got a similar story:
>
> I recently purchased a brand new A31p. On the bottom of the A31p is a
> Micro$oft sticker with a WinXP license. First thing I did when I received the
> machine was install SuSE 8.1 on the thinkpad. Next I installed vmware. (For
> those not aware, vmware let's you emulate a bios set, and therefore run
> multiple os's within one os {i.e. run WinXP as a window in Linux, or vice
> versa}).
>
> So I figured that I can grab my WinXP disk that I have from another PC,
> install that as a vm in vmware, and provide the XP license key from the
> bottom of my Thinkpad.
>
> Sounds right. I have paid for a license, I have a license key, and I have
> Windows XP media, so I should be able to install.
>
> Well that would have been too easy.
>
> After spending hours on the phone, I have the final conclusion:
>
> 1. There are a number of "versions" of XP, and there are corresponding
> licenses for those versions. So you can not necissarily purchased two XP
> disks, and use the other's license to install.
>
> 2. Microsoft will not send you a media cd to match a license key which you
> have.
>
> 3. IBM will not send you a cd for windows XP. They will send you a recovery CD
> which only let's you completely reformat your system.
>
> 4. There may be a work arround for my particular situation, but I havn't tried
> it yet:
>   a. Start off by reinstalling the base system using the IBM supplied recovery
> disk.
>   b. Backup the win XP install to a backup medium using the built in backup
> tools, or some others
>   c. Install your favorite linux by wiping out the newley restored XP
>   d. Install a new vmware XP using any other XP license you have, but not
> activating it.
>   e. Restore win XP from the backup in step (b).
>
> Ron
>
>
>
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