[ltp] Hardware Question regarding salvaging HDD's

Bert Haskins linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:16:15 -0400 

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Analabha Roy wrote:

>At the same risk of sounding stupid, I believe that both ends of those connectors are
>male. Please take a look at the port of my laptop HDD. It's wierd & male too, I believe:
>
>
>The pics are at 
>
>http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/pics2/
>
>
>
> I did do a google search & a search at CompUsa & only found adapters with both ends
>male. I need one end (the one that goes into the wierd port of my laptop HDD) to be
>female & the other end male (for the IDE controller of desktop, which is female I think).
>
>
> Are there any gender changers out there that are compatible? (I'll google it & check, of
>
Yes,  been there/done that.... checkout ebay auction
3473907561 	

FYI, you often must add a jumper between the end pins on the 4-pin group 
to set up the drive as a slave.
You should get the data sheet from IBM for your drive.
BE CAREFULL, it is easy to get this on backwards.
.... Bert

>course, but I'm just asking if anybody knows off of the top of his head).
>
>
>Regards,
>Analabha
>
>
>
>--- Ted Potter <tpotter@techmarin.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>At the risk of sounding stupid, I think they make a card that allows a
>>laptop hardrive to be installed as an standard ide hard drive in a
>>desktop. It is a pci card with a converter that plugs in to the smaller
>>laptop hard drive connector.
>>
>>here in the US these devices are carried by CompUsa. A google of these
>>devices shows a couple of places to get them.
>>
>>Now, shoot me down. There must be something I don't understand.
>>
>>hth
>>
>>Ted
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 22:24, Analabha Roy wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> I apologize in advance as this question is not directly related to running Linux on
>>>Thinkpads, but I'm utterly lost and have nowhere to turn to for information/guidance,
>>>      
>>>
>>so
>>    
>>
>>>any advice would be appreciated tenfold.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I had an IBM Thinkpad 770Z in which I had an XP/Linux-mdk-9.1 dual boot and
>>>      
>>>
>>everything
>>    
>>
>>>was fine, until one day it wouldn't boot anymore (not even the BIOS or anything). I
>>>      
>>>
>>took
>>    
>>
>>>it to a shop & they ran a diagnostic & said that the motherboard was damaged beyond
>>>repair. Since the peripherals were working fine, I was thinking of maybe salvaging my
>>>      
>>>
>>HDD
>>    
>>
>>>and using it as a portable (it's an IBM Travelstar). I thought that maybe if I got a
>>>standard USB hard drive casing (with the IDE-usb adapter in it) and connect the hard
>>>drive and put it in the casing, I might be able to mount it in my desktop via USB and
>>>      
>>>
>>use
>>    
>>
>>>it as a 14.1 gig portable drive, after I ghosted all my Linux partitions and
>>>      
>>>
>>recovered
>>    
>>
>>>the data using "dd" in Linux or something (I have a written copy of my partition
>>>      
>>>
>>table).
>>    
>>
>>>Unfortunately, all standard hard drive casings seem to be 12mm thick, and the
>>>      
>>>
>>travelstar
>>    
>>
>>>is 15mm thick, so it won't fit. In addition, the IDE port in the adapter is female, &
>>>      
>>>
>>so
>>    
>>
>>>is the IDE port in the Hard Drive (& they don't have the same # of pins). Accoding to
>>>      
>>>
>>the
>>    
>>
>>>IBM tech people, there are no casings or adapters in which travelstars may fit.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if you could suggest a way by which I might be able to salvage the
>>>      
>>>
>>HDD
>>    
>>
>>>and use it as an external, or, suggest a way to connect it to the IDE controller of
>>>      
>>>
>>my
>>    
>>
>>>desktop via a laptop pin-set-desktop pin-set adapter (if such a thing exists), afraid
>>>      
>>>
>>my
>>    
>>
>>>hardware knowledge is next to negligible so I'm stuck. Also, if all else fails, is
>>>      
>>>
>>there
>>    
>>
>>>a way to format the hard drive (outside of connecting it to another 770Z, I don't
>>>      
>>>
>>know of
>>    
>>
>>>anybody else who has such an old IBM, even penniless grad students like me)?
>>>
>>>
>>>  Please let me know if any of the above is possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Analabha Roy
>>>
>>>
>>>	
>>>		
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>>    
>>
>
>
>
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Analabha Roy wrote:<br>
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  <pre wrap="">At the same risk of sounding stupid, I believe that both ends of those connectors are
male. Please take a look at the port of my laptop HDD. It's wierd &amp; male too, I believe:


The pics are at 

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/pics2/">http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~daneel/pics2/</a>



 I did do a google search &amp; a search at CompUsa &amp; only found adapters with both ends
male. I need one end (the one that goes into the wierd port of my laptop HDD) to be
female &amp; the other end male (for the IDE controller of desktop, which is female I think).


 Are there any gender changers out there that are compatible? (I'll google it &amp; check, of</pre>
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FYI, you often must add a jumper between the end pins on the 4-pin
group to set up the drive as a slave.<br>
You should get the data sheet from IBM for your drive.<br>
BE CAREFULL, it is easy to get this on backwards.<br>
.... Bert<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid20040413100109.86945.qmail@web60403.mail.yahoo.com">
  <pre wrap="">course, but I'm just asking if anybody knows off of the top of his head).


Regards,
Analabha



--- Ted Potter <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tpotter@techmarin.com">&lt;tpotter@techmarin.com&gt;</a> wrote:
  </pre>
  <blockquote type="cite">
    <pre wrap="">At the risk of sounding stupid, I think they make a card that allows a
laptop hardrive to be installed as an standard ide hard drive in a
desktop. It is a pci card with a converter that plugs in to the smaller
laptop hard drive connector.

here in the US these devices are carried by CompUsa. A google of these
devices shows a couple of places to get them.

Now, shoot me down. There must be something I don't understand.

hth

Ted






On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 22:24, Analabha Roy wrote:
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Hi,


 I apologize in advance as this question is not directly related to running Linux on
Thinkpads, but I'm utterly lost and have nowhere to turn to for information/guidance,
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">so
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">any advice would be appreciated tenfold.


  I had an IBM Thinkpad 770Z in which I had an XP/Linux-mdk-9.1 dual boot and
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">everything
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">was fine, until one day it wouldn't boot anymore (not even the BIOS or anything). I
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">took
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">it to a shop &amp; they ran a diagnostic &amp; said that the motherboard was damaged beyond
repair. Since the peripherals were working fine, I was thinking of maybe salvaging my
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">HDD
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">and using it as a portable (it's an IBM Travelstar). I thought that maybe if I got a
standard USB hard drive casing (with the IDE-usb adapter in it) and connect the hard
drive and put it in the casing, I might be able to mount it in my desktop via USB and
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">use
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">it as a 14.1 gig portable drive, after I ghosted all my Linux partitions and
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">recovered
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">the data using "dd" in Linux or something (I have a written copy of my partition
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">table).
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">Unfortunately, all standard hard drive casings seem to be 12mm thick, and the
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">travelstar
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">is 15mm thick, so it won't fit. In addition, the IDE port in the adapter is female, &amp;
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">so
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">is the IDE port in the Hard Drive (&amp; they don't have the same # of pins). Accoding to
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">the
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">IBM tech people, there are no casings or adapters in which travelstars may fit.

 I was wondering if you could suggest a way by which I might be able to salvage the
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">HDD
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">and use it as an external, or, suggest a way to connect it to the IDE controller of
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">my
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">desktop via a laptop pin-set-desktop pin-set adapter (if such a thing exists), afraid
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">my
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">hardware knowledge is next to negligible so I'm stuck. Also, if all else fails, is
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">there
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">a way to format the hard drive (outside of connecting it to another 770Z, I don't
      </pre>
    </blockquote>
    <pre wrap="">know of
    </pre>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <pre wrap="">anybody else who has such an old IBM, even penniless grad students like me)?


  Please let me know if any of the above is possible.


Thanks,
Analabha Roy


	
		
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