[ltp] Suggested models?

[Bjorn Knutsson]

On 31 Dec 2003 21:28, Julian Underwood wrote:
> 
> > Well, some models of the T23, like mine, have built-in wireless. It
> > works pretty well for me. I've never had any use for accelerated 3D,
> > but I guess that's a chicken-and-egg problem.
> > 
> 
> I have a T23 as well, and I think it is a great machine for linux.  Big
> down-side for me is the lack of 3D support for it--I would like to be
> able to actually see Tux Racer or FooBillards work for once.  SiS video
> kinda sucks if you ask me.
> 
> Fedora Core 1 automatically detects my wireless card and uses the
> orinoco_pci driver set.  This driver set works fine, but it really sucks
> if you compare it to the linux-wlan-ng driver set--much, much more
> control with the latter.  If you've gotten that set to work PLEASE let
> me know how you got it to work, I use to have it working under RH9 and
> can't get it to work again (probably a problem between p80211.o module
> and the fact that Fedora auto detects my card as orinoco_pci.)

Oh? I'm using linux-wlan-ng, I pretty much just compiled and installed
it. I was happy to use the orinoco_pci driver until I discovered that
it completely hoses things if you send a lot of data. I can send at
full tilt for a second or three, and then it loses its interrupts, or
something, and just stops working.

I tried linux-wlan-ng instead. It's worked perfectly for me in the
past, and my only gripe is that it does not support the wireless
extensions, which means you have to do a lot of manual work to
configure it to work in a multi-network environment. (I use three or
four different networks, some with WEP, some without.)

> > Actually, my biggest problem with the T23 is that I upgraded it.
> > 
> > I used to run RH7.3 upgraded to RH8.0 (which is *not* the same as a
> > clean install of RH8.0), but decided to upgrade to Fedora Core 1 when
> > it came out.
> > 
> > The Fedora Core 1 kernel completely hoses suspension. In >50% cases of
> > suspening, you hear this omnious metallic click from the harddrive,
> > and when resuming, it works fine up until that point when it needs to
> > access the drive, at which time the system locks up.
> 
> True.

Ah! So you have that problem too! I'd appreciate it if you'd leave a
comment to that effect in the Fedora bugzilla system. This is bug
#112674 in their tracking system:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=112674
 
> >  I found a partial
> > workaround was to, when you bring the system back from suspension,
> > immediately request hibernation via Fn+F12. This would sometimes clear
> > whatever the drive problem was, hibernate, and then you could often,
> > but not always, wake it up. (Logs says it lost the interrupts for the
> > drive.)
> 
> I'll try that.

I hope you have hibernation working first, though. ;-)

> What works well for me is if I log out of the console then ctrl+alt+f1
> then login as root, issue a `apm -s`.  I can resume sucessfully the
> majority of the time.  Otherwise I usually suspend best when running
> `apm -s` from console 0 as root. 

Weird!
 
> Have you messed around with CPUFreq?  Any hints on getting that working
> well? ;-)

Nope, never looked at that.

> My feeling is the T30 is the ultimate linux laptop--correct me if I'm
> wrong.  I mean the video is ATI Radion, so it's 3D ready, good sound,
> wireless, etc.  I'm thinking of getting one.  T30...the ultimate linux
> laptop????

Functionally, perhaps, but I never liked the layout of it. It's also a
bit thicker (0.81" vs 0.75") than the T23. I just checked those
measurements, I'd have sworn the difference was bigger.

/Björn