[ltp] What to do if I suspect I've got a lemon T60?

[Aaron Mulder]

SuSE 10.1 Home Edition?  Do you have a URL for that?  This whole "SuSE
10.1 is unreliable" sounds like FUD to me.  Sure the distro has its
bugs, but I must have installed it 20 times on different Sun, Dell,
and IBM hardware, and the installer has never failed on me.  I find it
easy to believe that different machines have optical drives with
different specs, but pretty hard to believe that this causes the SuSE
10.1 installer to die.

Back to the topic, Whil, if you have support, I'd call IBM and see
what they make of it.  We've called in machines that crash
inexplicably and they've gone through their process and then sent out
a tech with a new motherboard or whatever.  If you don't have support,
maybe you should try to get a replacement from wherever you bought it.
 If you didn't delete the hidden partition on the disk, you should be
able to restore the factory Windows installation easily enough.

Thanks,
     Aaron

On 8/6/06, SOTL <s0tl155360@earthlink.net> wrote:
> James Knott wrote:
>
> >SOTL wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Whil Hentzen wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>>I bought a T60 from PC Connection about a month ago. (Been buying from
> >>>them since 1982, never been unhappy with anything.) First thing I did,
> >>>natch, was blow away Windows and install FC5. Well, I tried to, that is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Difficult to install on a laptop.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>After five or six days and perhaps a dozen attempted installs, I was
> >>>never able to get a complete installation to work. Several people on
> >>>this list suggested that perhaps the hardware was just a bit too new
> >>>for an OS that was delivered last winter.
> >>>
> >>>So then I tried installing Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake). Four days of
> >>>middling success: I got the initial install running, but the
> >>>networking never worked, and the machine kept locking up on me, say,
> >>>during an update, or when loading the system utilities.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>If you got the machine working then box is not trash.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Today I'm trying to install SuSE 10.1, and the damn box has locked up
> >>>3 times today. Haven't even gotten past the initial install process.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Try something else. SuSE 10.1 is noturious for not installing.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >???
> >
> >SUSE installs fine on ThinkPads.  In fact, Lenovo is installing SUSE
> >Linux on the T60.
> >
> >
>
> All Thinkpads do not have the same hardware.
>
> Many claim that id the kernel run and you got a command line then the
> system works.
>
> Some believe that if you get the GUI to work then the installation is
> correct.
>
> Some believe that you must have network capabilities by cable. Some by
> wireless.
>
> Damn few demand that the modem work.
>
> And even less demand that all keys be supports.
>
> As far as Lenovo they have the choice of hardware so can include only
> hardware that they can make work. Not so the current owners of
> Thinkpads; they are stuck with the hardware they purchased which may not
> be supported.
>
> Also Lenovo is able to modify the software to operate fully with the
> hardware Lenovo installs as Lenovo purchases is big enough lot that
> Lenovo can demand that the hardware manufactures provide Lenovo a
> complete and full set of specifications for the hardware Lenovo
> includes; not so current owners.
>
> So having Lenovo factory SuSE 10.1 on Thinkpads does not mean that SuSE
> 10.1 will run on a Thinkpad if you install it besides the SuSE that
> Lenovo is planning on installing is the Enterprise Edition not OpenSuSE
> or SuSE 10.1 Home Edition.
>
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