[ltp] 240X questions.

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On Thursday 23 November 2006 10:50 pm, Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 22:12 +0000, cloakable wrote:
> > > Other that "avoid the 240X because the limit of 192MB of main memory =
is
> > > too small even for a good Xubuntu experience", no.
> >
> > What do you recommend as an alternative, then?
>
> If you've just GOT to have the form factor of a 240-series ... the 400
> MHz 240 - because the RAM upgrade makes the machine usable.  Or, for
> something the same size but more modern, a JVC MiniNote.  The keyboard
> on the MiniNote isn't as good as a 240's, but the machine comes with
> built-in wireless and CDRW, and is very similar in size to the 240/240X.
>
> Comparing the 400 MHz 240 (320M) side-by-side to the 500 MHz 240X (192M)
> was interesting (My wife and I used to use 240-series machines).  The
> "slower" and older 240 was quite a bit more responsive due to it not
> swapping to disk nearly as often.  For *both* machines, swapping out the
> original hard disk for a 5400RPM drive increased performance noticeably.
>
Yeah, I've just found a good 240 on ebay with a load of extras, so I'll=20
probably go for that - RAM is more important than CPU, in many cases.

And it's still faster than the 380XD (pity it died, I liked that laptop).
> I've since gotten rid of the 240X, but I still have the 400 MHz 240 -
> now with Ubuntu Dapper installed.  FYI - you might find it easier to
> install Ubuntu on either the 240 or 240X by putting your hard drive into
> a laptop with a built-in CDROM, then transferring it back to the
> 240/240X.  Depends on what extra hardware you get with that machine from
> Ebay.
the 240 comes with a floppy and cdrom, so I'm set on that front, anyhow.

And what about Xubuntu Dapper? Would the lighter Xfce desktop make much of =
a=20
difference over the heavier GNOME one?
>
> If you just want a small but cheap Thinkpad, you could go with an X
> series.  The X20 is *dirt* cheap and tiny, but lacks built-in wireless
> (some models DO have built-in ethernet, though).  All of the X series
> notebooks support much more RAM than a 240X does - and are quite usable
> even with the overhead of Gnome or KDE.
>
The only X series model I can find on ebay is a lot of 5 for =A3800 :) Slig=
htly=20
out of my budget - =A3190
> I currently use an X31, and it's almost the perfect Linux laptop.  My
> only complaint about my X31 is that DRI support for Radeons is a little
> unstable.
How much can I expect to pay for one, though?
>
> > > The original Thinkpad 240 (no X) *can* be upgraded to 320MB of main
> > > memory - which makes for a little better experience, even though the
> > > processor's slower.
> >
> > I'd rather stick to supported amounts thanks :)
>
> How do you define "supported" for a laptop that hasn't been in
> production for years? :)
>
> >From several years of testing, I can say that the only thing that 320MB
>
> in a 240 breaks is BIOS suspend-to-disk, which you wouldn't use on
> Ubuntu anyway (you'd use the kernel's built-in hibernation or swsusp2.)
Thanks for that info - it's pushed me more towards the 240 rather than the=
=20
240X.
>
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