[ltp] Gates' pound of flesh

[nico]

Baz wrote:
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> On 1/20/07, *Richard Neill* <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk 
> <mailto:rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>> wrote:
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>     Keith Gates wrote:
>     > On 1/20/07, *Ted Antkowiak* <tedward@techie.com
>     <mailto:tedward@techie.com>
>     > <mailto: tedward@techie.com <mailto:tedward@techie.com>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hello All,
>     >
>     >     New subscriber here, with a question:
>     >
>     >     Has anyone here successfully purchased a new Thinkpad without
>     >     Windoze on it and without having to pay the built-in licence
>     fee to
>     >     Microsoft?
>     >
>     >     If so (or even if not, but you tried to), would you share your
>     >     story?  Thanks!
>     >
>     >     - tedward
>     >
>     >
>     > I read a story on slashdot a few weeks ago.  About a guy that
>     called
>     > cell a bunch of time to refund his money for something he was
>     not going
>     > to use.  He got his money back so you might want to look up that.
>     >
>
>
>     Is there any way to get IBM to ship you a proper Windows Install
>     disk,
>     rather than the pointless recovery partition? Much though I loathe XP,
>     it is occasionally useful, but I'd like my copy to be within QEMU, not
>     on a partition on its own. Alternatively, is there any way to
>     transfer
>     XP from the installed partition into some sort of VM?
>
>     Richard
>
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>
> I haven't experienced it personally - but, I've read quite a bit on 
> the subject; that is, IBM/Lenovo pre-installing Linux (or in your 
> case, shipping w/no OS) on Thinkpads.  As you've probably heard, 
> Lenovo entered into an agreement with Novell (SUSE) to pre-install 
> SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED) on Thinkpads (or desktops) ONLY 
> to large customers.  That is, customers who buy in bulk.  Individuals 
> will be eligible eventually, but no exact time-frame was given.  My 
> experience with IBM/Lenovo is that they have revealed themselves to be 
> flexible.  To second a previous comment on this string - just ask 
> them.  IBM (and it's my wish Lenovo is the same) is no fool.  They 
> didn't become the industry standard by dismissing reasonable requests. 
>  Please keep in mind, they have Microsoft looking over their shoulders 
> - and they must still do business with them.  However, IBM at least 
> has established themselves in the fore-front of the Linux Revolution 
> (see their own commercial from 2003 about Linux) and, they've been 
> around far longer.  I'm satisfied with my relatively new Thinkpad - so 
> much so, I've begun looking into buying a desktop system.
>
> Regards,
> Sebastian
>
> -- 
> "...heart and soul....one will burn."
> - Joy Division 
the mine thinkpad an x24 was delver at the first owner whitout prelodead