Subject: [ltp] Curious WiFi issue dual booting w/T42 running
Suse10.3
portsample
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:56:12 -0900
It was not detecting the wifi card.
I'd initially assumed that it was related to an automatic online
upgrade/patch changing a config and lousing things up, but I checked
back through my logs and found that none of the recent ones were kernel
or wireless related.
"Symptomatically", it appeared that there was something about WinXP that
had left the modem unreachable for SuSE for that session...a file lock?
a buffer in the modem that was not clearing??? Booting into XP, (to
download ndiswrapper) cured the problem for whatever reason.
Thanks for the response.
> Message: 6
> From: portsample <portsample@blepsias.net>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:17:04 -0900
> Subject: [ltp] Curious WiFi issue dual booting w/T42 running Suse10.3
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> I have a dual boot system on my T42 where my hard drive is shared
> between Suse 10.3 and WinXP. Earlier today I was connected into my
> wireless hub using WinXP, shut down and rebooted into Suse 10.3, at
> which point I could not get the wireless modem to be detected. I
> basically did a reinstall w/absolutely no luck. Rebooted, the whole
> works...no modem.
>
> THEN, I booted into WinXP to download a file, did so, shutdown WinXP and
> rebooted Suse at which point the modem was detected again and now is
> fine.
>
> Curious, eh? It appears that there was something about the modem that
> wouldn't allow access until I'd done another WinXP boot. The modem is
> the stock internal unit that came w/the laptop and I am using a native
> driver, (NOT ndiswrapper).
>
> Does anyone have any ideas what may have happened? Thanks.
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 23:38:28 +0000
> From: Jeffrey Franc-Law <jfl@voltarace.com>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Curious WiFi issue dual booting w/T42 running Suse10.3
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> I'm not sure about your specific situation however......
>
> Is your wireless card truly not detected, or, is it just unable to get
> an IP address from the router?
>
> I do find that if I boot my machine on windows, connect to the wireless
> network, then shutdown, and restart in linux (or the other way around)
> my wireless router will not issue the ip address. I beleive, since the
> wireless card has the same MAC address on both systems, that the router
> is confused.
>
> I have solved this problem by resetting the router after switching from
> one os to another.
>
> Took me awhile to figure this out actually. (slow learner).
>
> ciao,
> jfl
>
>
> portsample wrote:
> > I have a dual boot system on my T42 where my hard drive is shared
> > between Suse 10.3 and WinXP. Earlier today I was connected into my
> > wireless hub using WinXP, shut down and rebooted into Suse 10.3, at
> > which point I could not get the wireless modem to be detected. I
> > basically did a reinstall w/absolutely no luck. Rebooted, the whole
> > works...no modem.
> >
> > THEN, I booted into WinXP to download a file, did so, shutdown WinXP and
> > rebooted Suse at which point the modem was detected again and now is
> > fine.
> >
> > Curious, eh? It appears that there was something about the modem that
> > wouldn't allow access until I'd done another WinXP boot. The modem is
> > the stock internal unit that came w/the laptop and I am using a native
> > driver, (NOT ndiswrapper).
> >
> > Does anyone have any ideas what may have happened? Thanks.
> >
> >
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:43:56 +0000
> From: Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> To: Linux Thinkpad <linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org>
> Subject: [ltp] T60p lockups
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm having frequent (every few days) lockups with my T60, where simply
> clicking the mouse on a menu or tab will hang the machine. I have to
> recover with the power switch (not even SysRQ works). Sometimes I even
> have to disconnect the AC for a minute, or powering-on only shows a
> black screen with a flashing cursor, and fails to boot.
>
> However, when it works, it works fine for a few days. I'm using Ubuntu
> Feisty, with the vesa driver (so surely it can't be a fglrx problem).
> Memtest works fine.
>
> Any suggestions? Any tests I can run to exercise the rest of the hardware?
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Richard
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:08:35 -0800
> From: John Jason Jordan <johnxj@comcast.net>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] T60p lockups
> Organization: None whatsoever
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:43:56 +0000
> Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk> dijo:
>
> > Any suggestions? Any tests I can run to exercise the rest of the hardware?
>
> You might try The Ultimate Boot CD. It has lots of disk-testing
> utilities. There is an ISO on the net somewhere, but I've lost the URL.
>
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> Message: 10
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> From: Michelle Klein-Hass <msgeek@dslextreme.com>
> Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:01:01 -0800
> Subject: [ltp] Is Kubuntu Dapper Drake the end of the line for 600x?
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
> I have been trying to install something newer on the Kubuntu continuum
> than Dapper Drake on my 600x, and so far, no joy. All you get is a
> blinking cursor at the top left corner of the screen when you try to
> boot using a newer CD. Yes, I've tried all the "noapic nolapic acpi=off
> apm" crap, it makes no difference.
>
> Here's a bug report from Ubuntu's bug tracker describing in more detail
> what is going on:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/
> 112569
>
> The bug report has a workaround which is to install Dapper, do a few
> dist-upgrades until you are at Gutsy level, but to continue to use the
> 2.6.15 kernel that came with Dapper. That couldn't be a good
> workaround, could it? One can imagine the nightmares of having varying
> versions of software with varying levels of compatibility.
>
> I know this is an elderly machine, and that I should go find an ice
> floe and push it out to sea to die like the gods say the old ones must.
> However, it's still a solid machine. The most taxing thing the person
> who will be using this machine will use it for is running Audacity to
> digitize audio from his cassette Portastudio. He will also occasionally
> use the Internet, so I want the machine up-to-date for that reason.
>
> Anyone still running a 600x? Anyone got a modern kernel running on that
> puppy?
>
> Thanks,
> Michelle
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 06:24:02 +0000
> From: Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> Subject: Re: [ltp] Is Kubuntu Dapper Drake the end of the line for 600x?
> Reply-To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
>
>
>
> Michelle Klein-Hass wrote:
> > I have been trying to install something newer on the Kubuntu continuum
> > than Dapper Drake on my 600x, and so far, no joy. All you get is a
> > blinking cursor at the top left corner of the screen when you try to
> > boot using a newer CD. Yes, I've tried all the "noapic nolapic acpi=off
> > apm" crap, it makes no difference.
> >
>
> It might be worth playing with a few other live-CDs. Eg Mandriva 2008.0
> and Fedora 8 are both out recently. That should give an indication as to
> whether it's a kernel-problem, or a distro-problem.
>
> Also, for what it's worth, you can quite easily use a kernel from one
> distro, together with the rest of another. (My A22p spent 6 months using
> a Mandriva 9.1 system, and a Knoppix kernel, in order to get support for
> a newer wifi card).
>
> If you have a Gutsy install on a desktop machine, you can pretty easily
> clone it onto the laptop:
>
> 1)Copy the root partition (on the desktop) to a temp directory.
>
> 2)Chroot in, and run apt to remove stuff you don't want to have on the
> laptop. (Also, use rm -rf if you want to be more forceful about saving
> space - it's perfectly possible to have a decent KDE install + a few
> apps (eg firefox + amarok + vlc +...) in less than 1GB)
>
> 3)Boot the laptop with a live CD. Format, and create filesystems.
>
> 4)Rsync the installed image across.
>
> 5)Do what you must with the kernel - (just copy the relevant vmlinuz and
> /lib/modules from another x86 system, then run mkinitrd).
>
> 6)Fix certain files (notably /etc/fstab and menu.lst).
>
> 7)Install grub into the boot sector.
>
> Reboot, and enjoy.
>
> HTH,
>
> Richard
>
>
> P.S. If knoppix works for you, there's a very neat knoppix installer on
> the CD. It is the easiest way to install I've ever seen! The catch is
> that your system is non-trivial to update.
>
>
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