[ltp] Re: How do the new T60s compare to the older T42 Thinkpads? (portsample)

[Konstantin Filtschew]

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Hi,

the 60th series are all with S-ATA hard drives. The ATA-133 bus is still
faster enough for the hard drives, so S-ATA is not really needed for
performance.

Touchpad can be turned of (including the lower keys) with this command:
synclient TouchpadOff=3D1

and turned back on:
synclient TouchpadOff=3D0

I don't have a T60 or newer series, because my company got problems with
the first models (motherboard problems), display failure and they
changed to brand. Almost all problems seems to be solved by Lenovo, so
give it a try.

Greetz

Konstantin


On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 20:32 -0800, portsample wrote:
> Thanks for the responses to my question. I am thinking that I may
> upgrade to a T61, or whatever is around in a couple of months. My
> current machine is a T-30 that I'll have had for 5 years as of next
> January. Aside from replacing the hard drive that failed 2 years ago,
> this has been a dynamite little machine. In the last month, however it
> has taken it's first drops; the first was off of the seat of a pickup
> truck and onto the cab floor- this resulted in a crack in the lower left
> corner of the case...surprising given that it was a fall of only
> 14" (35cm) or so. The second was when my wife's dachshund tried to run
> through the powercord: the cord did not disconnect and the laptop
> clattered to the floor, the dog never broke stride. This machine has
> seen daily use and has traveled w/me extensively as evidenced by the
> bare metal showing though all of the panels on the bottom of the
> machine.
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> Another question: Is anyone aware of a website that may have some
> insight (gossip) regarding what the new models might be that we can
> expect from Lenovo in the future? I've checked the Lenovo-Blog site
> ("Inside the Box") and periodically check the Thinkpads.com forum. There
> are a number of recent innovations that I have noticed in other laptops
> that would be sweet in ThinkPads: magnetic power connectors (ala Apple
> powerbooks) that detach rather that yanking your Thinkpad off of the
> table and SATA hard drives that allow for faster VMWare sessions. Also
> what is the possibility of AMD 64-bit Turon processors in TPs? Other
> innovations?=20
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> I wish they would offer the Trackpoint w/out the Touchpad on the
> T-series.
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> Thanks again for the responses.
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> portsample
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> portsample wrote:=20
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm thinking about picking up a new T42 ThinkPad while they are still
> > available. There are a bunch on sale at ubid.com for $550.00-$625.00.=20
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> > How do the new Lenovo T60/61 units compare to one of these last classic
> > ThinkPads? I have read that the T60s are flimsier and that the
> > components are cheaper and have a higher failure rate. Is this true?
> >
> > What have people found w/these? How do they compare? Thanks for
> > responses and advice.
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> We have varieties from T20 through Z and T 61's. I just traded off a=20
> wide screen T43 and got a T61 with the SXGA 14.1" screen or whatever=20
> they call it. I find that the newer (higher number) the model, the more=20
> sensitive the wireless. My daughter's Z61 worked fine on a 30% signal=20
> where my T43 was marginal, but I was running SUSE and she was running=20
> XP, if that made a difference. I don't think the quality or ruggedness=20
> has changed much, if any. At least not with my units.
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> I don't much like the wide bodies (why I got rid of the T43) and the=20
> metal cover on the Z's is not for me either, but that is eye candy. I=20
> dislike all eye candy. Obviously, that is just personal preference, but=20
> the wide bodies are not friendly on the train or in a briefcase. Too=20
> wide, too thick. I bought the T61 with the small battery for when I=20
> carry it to a client's place and a larger battery for when I need to run=20
> extended (the larger batteries stick out the rear).
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> The T42's have been quite serviceable (in use) and we have a couple of=20
> people using them with no complaints (they are not the type to make=20
> compliments but yell when stuff either doesn't work or they can't make=20
> it work). These are strictly for business use, email, Word, Excel,=20
> manufacturer proprietary software, etc.
> I would only consider Thinkpads because I can't stand the little touch=20
> pad thingie but can work with the joystick. I have a T20 that I bought=20
> when it was new, some 7 or 8 years ago. I had to replace the cable that=20
> runs from the processor to the LCD screen and inverter a couple of years=20
> ago. Doesn't see much use anymore but is a workhorse machine.
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> You can't compare failure rates until they have been out there for a=20
> while. One of my Z60's has been in constant use for a year with no=20
> problems (Windows puked on the modem drivers once, but that comes=20
> standard with all PC's). The user is a complete novice. The widebody Z's=20
> make a nice desktop replacement when you move your desktop back and=20
> forth to a vacation home, RV,  or whatever for a while. Don't ever put=20
> anything, like a camera, on the top of a Z when it is closed and sitting=20
> on a port replicator, it  is slippery (ask my son in law) :)
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> If I were making your decision, based on our experience, I would go for=20
> one of the new ones.  If you plan to run Linux on it (I am running=20
> Ubuntu on my T61), be prepared to: fiddle with the kernel, wait for more=20
> updates, or do without some stuff..... like suspend to RAM, Sound,=20
> Brightness control, etc.=20
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> But, after reading your note I am going to recommend the T42's to a=20
> client who needs to replace a couple of T22's.
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> Lou
> "Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get tired.=
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>  - Jules Renard
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