[ltp] Re: Other uses for the fingerprint reader?
Bill Hudacek
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:55:37 -0400
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Actually, from the perspective of security, I'm glad to hear that there
are false negatives - that's far better than false positives!
(Having read literature on just how untenable biometrics is - when taken
alone, rather than as part of 'three factor authentication' - I would
consider it to be a matter of convenience only, and not security, for
laptops. A 'secure' version of a fingerprint reader would read your
fingerprint, and then /still/ insist you enter your password, and quite
possibly consult your S/Key 'fob' for the next number to flash on the
display.......now /that's/ a fairly secure solution :-)
This is the first I've heard anyone describe inaccuracies in actual
operation on thinkpads, though (I don't have one, have never had one).
Regards,
Bill Hudacek
"If we make security trade-offs based on the feeling of security rather
than the reality, we choose security that makes us *feel* more secure over
security that actually makes us more secure. And that's what governments,
companies, family members and everyone else provide. Of course, there are
two ways to make people feel more secure. The first is to make people
actually more secure and hope they notice. The second is to make people
feel more secure without making them actually more secure, and hope they
don't notice." - Bruce Schneier
From:
David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com>
To:
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Date:
04/27/2008 09:26 PM
Subject:
[ltp] Re: Other uses for the fingerprint reader?
on Sun Apr 27 2008, Dom <linux-thinkpad-list-AT-domdelimar.com> wrote:
> Also I hope you realize there is only one correct way to swipe your
> finger which I learned in less than 5 minutes when I first enrolled my
> fingerprints under Win XP. When I swipe my finger that way, I almost
> never have misreads.
Yes, I realize. I just gave up; it was too unreliable.
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Dave Abrahams
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Actually, from the perspective of security,
I'm glad to hear that there are false negatives - that's far better than
false positives! </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">(Having read literature on just how
untenable biometrics is - when taken alone, rather than as part of 'three
factor authentication' - I would consider it to be a matter of convenience
only, and not security, for laptops. A 'secure' version of a fingerprint
reader would read your fingerprint, and then /still/ insist you enter your
password, and quite possibly consult your S/Key 'fob' for the next number
to flash on the display.......now /that's/ a fairly secure solution :-)</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This is the first I've heard anyone
describe inaccuracies in actual operation on thinkpads, though (I don't
have one, have never had one).</font>
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<br><font size=3>Regards,</font>
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<hr><font size=3>Bill Hudacek </font>
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"If we make security trade-offs based on the feeling of security rather
than the reality, we choose security that makes us *feel* more secure over
security that actually makes us more secure. And that's what governments,
companies, family members and everyone else provide. Of course, there are
two ways to make people feel more secure. The first is to make people actually
more secure and hope they notice. The second is to make people feel more
secure without making them actually more secure, and hope they don't notice."
- Bruce Schneier</font>
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on Sun Apr 27 2008, Dom <linux-thinkpad-list-AT-domdelimar.com> wrote:<br>
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> Also I hope you realize there is only one correct way to swipe your<br>
> finger which I learned in less than 5 minutes when I first enrolled
my<br>
> fingerprints under Win XP. When I swipe my finger that way, I almost<br>
> never have misreads.<br>
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Yes, I realize. I just gave up; it was too unreliable.<br>
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Boost Consulting<br>
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