[ltp] RE: svideo output on thinkpad z61e
Richard Neill
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:55:27 +0100
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>> P.S. If you've not done this before, you'll notice horrible
>> "comb-distortion" aka "mice teeth". This is related to
>> interlacing/de-interlacing. http://100fps.com/
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> my television doesn't have an option to change it's region, so i'm
> going to assume--possibly incorrectly--that it is set correctly. one
> down, many to go.
Some TVs are capable of receiving multiple different encodings, such as
NTSC or PAL. Sounds like your TV isn't multi-format capable (which is
perfectly OK). Therefore ,you will need to make sure your computer is
set to output video in the same format as your TV expects.
More here, including a useful map.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pal
> under-/overscan? what do you mean?
Is the TV a CRT, or an LCD? If the latter, this is a non-issue. If the
former:
underscan = "image fits on TV with black border"
overscan = "image cropped by the bezel of the CRT".
This is because CRTs have rounded corners.
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> the widescreen is a likely culprit, as my lcd IS widescreen and my
> television is not.
Perhaps. However, it shouldn't be relevant, if you are trying to run a
multi-screen system rather than cloning one. Either way, this affects
resolution, not colour.
>
> i don't want to get into a "why can windows do it and linux can't," but
> this would seem like something relatively straight forward... if
> windows can do this seamlessly and intel has native drivers for linux,
> why can't linux achieve the same thing?
>
> overall, any suggestions on how i could proceed?
I'd suggest you start by making sure your PC is outputting the right
encoding.
Usually UK/Europe = PAL (sometimes SECAM), and USA = NTSC.
The computer should support both; make sure you have switched it to the
correct value. This is probably an xorg setting, but it might be an
intel-hardware one, and it might even be in the BIOS.
Sorry I can't help more specifically. I do recall experimenting, and
seeing that coloured images rendering in monochrome is a typical
failure-mode of TVs when they receive the wrong format.
Some more info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_television
Basically, Black and White analog TV is the same the world over
(excepting the clock frequency*); but the colour-encoding method is
different. One of the design-goals of (then new) colour TV transmissions
was that an older black-and-white set should not be confused, but should
be able to receive the colour transmission, compatibly falling back to B/W.
This is similar in principle to FM-stereo on a mono-receiver. It's a
very clever "hack", which results in a horridly ugly specification.
* Most decent TVs will tolerate either 25 Hz or 30 Hz frame-rate, and
will just sync up to the input clock.
Regards,
Richard
P.S. If you have a camcorder with S-video in/out, this may be useful in
debugging. Likewise, a digital camera with composite video out. Most of
these are designed to work internationally, so make it simple to switch
the encoding.