[ltp] Ultranav (Alps) on R61 (tap-to-select, scrolling)
Daniel Black
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:19:41 -0400
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Hello,
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 AM, S=E9bastien Mazy <melyadon@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Catscrash <Catscrash@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think it's this bug:
> > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D8864
>
> Yes, it is. It was previously discussed on this very mailing-list :
> http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=3D13633&local=3Dy&query=3Dr6=
1+alps
>
> > I think the patch they included into the Kernel there, fixed the Touchp=
ad
> > but now prevents me from Scrolling via Trackpoint
> > Comment #19 from Dmitry Torokhov sounded somelike very fatal, but perha=
ps
> > something changed until now.
>
> Exactly. This patch adds the R61 Alps touchpad to the recognized
> devices of the Alps kernel driver. However, this driver doesn't handle
> passthrough mode correctly (ie when the touchpad is enabled it hides
> the trackpoint), so you can't use the trackpoint driver while the
> touchpad is enabled. The problem isn't likely to be solved since Alps
> didn't provide information on their protocol.
>
>
> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the touchpad in the bios because
> I find the trackpoint more useful than the touchpad.
>
I have done this (excellent suggestion, if obvious in hindsight), with the
intent to conquer the touchpoint and be 668.5 (half 1337; full 1337 means
I'm using links from a console, which I do frequently, but the graphical we=
b
has its niceties). It turns out I'm not a great fan of the touchpoint just
yet, and moreover, despite my initial proclamation years ago as to how dumb
scrollwheels are, I am not enthused at needing to navigate to the right of
the browser window to scroll.
So, I'm inquiring as to whether this thread reflects the state-of-the-art
for R61(i) ALPS pads. I hate tap-to-click, but I'm thinking I might like
the scrolling feature. Is there some cohesive documentation of this just
yet?
Thank you for your help.
Daniel
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Hello,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 AM, S=
=E9bastien Mazy <<a href=3D"mailto:melyadon@gmail.com">melyadon@gmail.co=
m</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex=
;">
Hi,<br>
<br>
On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Catscrash <<a href=3D"mailto:Catscrash@=
gmail.com">Catscrash@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I think it's this bug:<br>
> <a href=3D"http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D8864" target=
=3D"_blank">http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D8864</a><br>
<br>
Yes, it is. It was previously discussed on this very mailing-list :<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?forum=3D13633&local=
=3Dy&query=3Dr61+alps" target=3D"_blank">http://www.nabble.com/forum/Se=
arch.jtp?forum=3D13633&local=3Dy&query=3Dr61+alps</a><br>
<br>
> I think the patch they included into the Kernel there, fixed the Touch=
pad<br>
> but now prevents me from Scrolling via Trackpoint<br>
> Comment #19 from Dmitry Torokhov sounded somelike very fatal, but perh=
aps<br>
> something changed until now.<br>
<br>
Exactly. This patch adds the R61 Alps touchpad to the recognized<br>
devices of the Alps kernel driver. However, this driver doesn't handle<=
br>
passthrough mode correctly (ie when the touchpad is enabled it hides<br>
the trackpoint), so you can't use the trackpoint driver while the<br>
touchpad is enabled. The problem isn't likely to be solved since Alps<b=
r>
didn't provide information on their protocol.<br>
<br>
<br>
As a temporary workaround, I disabled the touchpad in the bios because<br>
I find the trackpoint more useful than the touchpad.<br>
</blockquote></div><br>I have done this (excellent suggestion, if obvious i=
n hindsight), with the intent to conquer the touchpoint and be 668.5 (half =
1337; full 1337 means I'm using links from a console, which I do freque=
ntly, but the graphical web has its niceties). It turns out I'm n=
ot a great fan of the touchpoint just yet, and moreover, despite my initial=
proclamation years ago as to how dumb scrollwheels are, I am not enthused =
at needing to navigate to the right of the browser window to scroll.<br>
<br>So, I'm inquiring as to whether this thread reflects the state-of-t=
he-art for R61(i) ALPS pads. I hate tap-to-click, but I'm thinkin=
g I might like the scrolling feature. Is there some cohesive document=
ation of this just yet?<br>
<br>Thank you for your help.<br><br>Daniel<br>
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