[ltp] Re: [Re: Best Linux distro for ThinkPad T61...]

Chris Penn linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:19:58 -0700


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The issues I have had with suse are, for a desktop (not a server), SuSe run=
s
a bit slugish, SuSe take a while to install, the package management is a
pain compared to .deb files( ie dependency checking), and the porting of ne=
w
software/apps/kernel or new versions of software is slower then with other
distributions.  That last one is the deal breaker for me most of the time
(w.r.t. desktops only) because it causes compatability issues with new
software.  YES, one can always install the newest drivers etc etc, but I
dont need to with debian or ubuntu most of the time, and if I do, it is
easier to do with debian or ubuntu.

Novell has signed agreements with Microsoft to avoid getting sued when they
shouldnt have.  This is unrelated to performance, but still bothers me.

Chris...

2009/6/2 "Karsten K=F6nig" <remur@gmx.net>

>
> > Yves Dorfsman wrote:
> >
> > Surely, mp3 isn't sufficient reason to choose Ubuntu.  OpenSuse include=
s
> a
> > variety of open source and proprietary mp3 software.
> >
> > I don't know what world you're in.  By not supporting LSB, Ubuntu makes
> > difficulties for a fair amount of commercial as well as free software.
> >
>
> openSUSE mp3 decoder is fluendo gstreamer, which had to be dropped for th=
e
> next release (fluendo wasn't specific about the reason last time I checke=
d),
> but I don't see that as a problem, most Fedora and openSUSE users add the=
ir
> respective 3rd party addon repository "RPM Fusion" for Fedora or "Packman=
"
> for openSUSE, a simple update will then allow you mp3 playback and
> everything else you might need what is encumbered with legal issues.
>
> I am using openSUSE 11.1 on my T400 and it's running pretty nice, things
> that are important to me like KDE and virtualbox can be updated by using =
the
> buildservice, so there is also not much pressure to jump to the most
> bleeding edge distribution.
> But that's personal taste, most distributions hardware support is more or
> less equal, so any current distribution should be fine.
> Ubuntu 9.04 does have a quite problematic intel video driver though, so
> maybe use an earlier release in case you want ubuntu.
>
>
> Karsten
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The issues I have had with suse are, for a desktop (not a server), SuSe run=
s a bit slugish, SuSe take a while to install, the package management is a =
pain compared to .deb files( ie dependency checking), and the porting of ne=
w software/apps/kernel or new versions of software is slower then with othe=
r distributions.=A0 That last one is the deal breaker for me most of the ti=
me (w.r.t. desktops only) because it causes compatability issues with new s=
oftware.=A0 YES, one can always install the newest drivers etc etc, but I d=
ont need to with debian or ubuntu most of the time, and if I do, it is easi=
er to do with debian or ubuntu.<br>
<br>Novell has signed agreements with Microsoft to avoid getting sued when =
they shouldnt have.=A0 This is unrelated to performance, but still bothers =
me.=A0 <br><br>Chris... <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/6/2 &quot;K=
arsten K=F6nig&quot; <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:remur@gmx.net"=
>remur@gmx.net</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
><br>
&gt; Yves Dorfsman wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Surely, mp3 isn&#39;t sufficient reason to choose Ubuntu. =A0OpenSuse =
includes a<br>
&gt; variety of open source and proprietary mp3 software.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I don&#39;t know what world you&#39;re in. =A0By not supporting LSB, U=
buntu makes<br>
&gt; difficulties for a fair amount of commercial as well as free software.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>openSUSE mp3 decoder is fluendo gstreamer, which had to be dropped fo=
r the next release (fluendo wasn&#39;t specific about the reason last time =
I checked), but I don&#39;t see that as a problem, most Fedora and openSUSE=
 users add their respective 3rd party addon repository &quot;RPM Fusion&quo=
t; for Fedora or &quot;Packman&quot; for openSUSE, a simple update will the=
n allow you mp3 playback and everything else you might need what is encumbe=
red with legal issues.<br>

<br>
I am using openSUSE 11.1 on my T400 and it&#39;s running pretty nice, thing=
s that are important to me like KDE and virtualbox can be updated by using =
the buildservice, so there is also not much pressure to jump to the most bl=
eeding edge distribution.<br>

But that&#39;s personal taste, most distributions hardware support is more =
or less equal, so any current distribution should be fine.<br>
Ubuntu 9.04 does have a quite problematic intel video driver though, so may=
be use an earlier release in case you want ubuntu.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
<br>
Karsten<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>&quot;As we=
 open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continu=
ally assaulted by the fruits of Mankind&#39;s stupidity.&quot;<br> -Roger P=
enrose<br>


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