[ltp] Crashes on boot with new HD

Daniel Castro linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:25:51 +0100


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Is it really crashing or just hanging there for a long time?
Does it continue loading after a while (~3 mins)?

2009/10/7 Harold Pimentel <withfalseemotion@yahoo.com>

>
>
> --- On Tue, 10/6/09, Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> > From: Richard Neill <rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [ltp] Crashes on boot with new HD
> > To: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
> > Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:41 PM
> >
> >
> > Harold Pimentel wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I own a T61 and I recently installed a new hard
> > drive.
> >
> > I suspect this isn't the problem. Once in Linux, use
> > smartctl to double check that the drive is OK.
> >
> > >
> > > Sometimes when I boot into Ubuntu it crashes before
> > the actual OS loads. I have no idea if it's the new drive,
> > or maybe a bad installation of ubuntu and I'm not even sure
> > how to diagnose it.
> > >
> > > If anyone has any suggestions I'd greatly appreciate.
> > Here is a photo of where it usually hangs:
> > >
> > > http://ecs.fullerton.edu/~pimentel/pics/laptoperr.jpg<http://ecs.fullerton.edu/%7Epimentel/pics/laptoperr.jpg>
> > >
> >
> > Interesting that it is in the ACPI portion of the boot. I
> > had trouble with that too (though in my case, it was a
> > faulty motherboard).
> >
> >
> > > Oh yeah, I don't have an issue with Windows 7 at all.
> >
> > So *probably* not dodgy hardware.
> >
>
> Honestly if anything I expect the drive to be bad, as the old drive had no
> problems for about a year and a half. the only reason I swapped was for more
> storage space.
>
> >
> >
> > Does this happen almost every time you boot Linux or just
> > rarely?
> >
> > Can you see any pattern to it?
> >
>
> It happens very often. I would say about 60-70% of the time. I've noticed
> that it usually does so when I restart after being on for a few minutes and
> being "warmed up."
>
> > When it crashes, do you have to power-cycle the machine, or
> > does it respond to, say, Alt-Sysrq-{R,S,E,I,U,B}?
> >
>
> I usually power cycle the machine. I haven't tried any of those key
> combinations, only CTRL-ALT-DEL
>
> > Which Ubuntu version are you using? Could you try out
> > another one? (the easiest way is to boot the live
> > environment from a USB key; unetbootin
> > makes this very easy.)
> >
>
> It's on ubuntu 9.04. I tried loading kubuntu 9.04 live cd earlier and I it
> gave me a pnpbios error, so I reboot with pnpbios=off and it started fine.
>
> The new drive is a 7200 RPM, and the only a 5400rpm. This sounds like a
> rather ludicrous question, but could that be an issue?
>
> I am currently running spinrite on the entire disk to see if there are
> errors (I already ran fsck and found none). it says it will be done in about
> 20 hours :X
>
> For now I put the old drive in and haven't seen any issues yet..
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Harold
>
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Is it really crashing or just hanging there for a long time?<br>Does it con=
tinue loading after a while (~3 mins)?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">20=
09/10/7 Harold Pimentel <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:withfalseem=
otion@yahoo.com">withfalseemotion@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
<br>
--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Richard Neill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn214@hermes.cam.a=
c.uk">rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; From: Richard Neill &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rn214@hermes.cam.ac.uk">rn21=
4@hermes.cam.ac.uk</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; Subject: Re: [ltp] Crashes on boot with new HD<br>
&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org">linux-thinkpa=
d@linux-thinkpad.org</a><br>
&gt; Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 7:41 PM<br>
<div class=3D"im">&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Harold Pimentel wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I own a T61 and I recently installed a new hard<br>
&gt; drive.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I suspect this isn&#39;t the problem. Once in Linux, use<br>
&gt; smartctl to double check that the drive is OK.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Sometimes when I boot into Ubuntu it crashes before<br>
&gt; the actual OS loads. I have no idea if it&#39;s the new drive,<br>
&gt; or maybe a bad installation of ubuntu and I&#39;m not even sure<br>
&gt; how to diagnose it.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; If anyone has any suggestions I&#39;d greatly appreciate.<br>
&gt; Here is a photo of where it usually hangs:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href=3D"http://ecs.fullerton.edu/%7Epimentel/pics/laptoperr.jp=
g" target=3D"_blank">http://ecs.fullerton.edu/~pimentel/pics/laptoperr.jpg<=
/a><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Interesting that it is in the ACPI portion of the boot. I<br>
&gt; had trouble with that too (though in my case, it was a<br>
&gt; faulty motherboard).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Oh yeah, I don&#39;t have an issue with Windows 7 at all.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So *probably* not dodgy hardware.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>Honestly if anything I expect the drive to be bad, as the old drive h=
ad no problems for about a year and a half. the only reason I swapped was f=
or more storage space.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Does this happen almost every time you boot Linux or just<br>
&gt; rarely?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Can you see any pattern to it?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>It happens very often. I would say about 60-70% of the time. I&#39;ve=
 noticed that it usually does so when I restart after being on for a few mi=
nutes and being &quot;warmed up.&quot;<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; When it crashes, do you have to power-cycle the machine, or<br>
&gt; does it respond to, say, Alt-Sysrq-{R,S,E,I,U,B}?<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>I usually power cycle the machine. I haven&#39;t tried any of those k=
ey combinations, only CTRL-ALT-DEL<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Which Ubuntu version are you using? Could you try out<br>
&gt; another one? (the easiest way is to boot the live<br>
&gt; environment from a USB key; unetbootin<br>
&gt; makes this very easy.)<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>It&#39;s on ubuntu 9.04. I tried loading kubuntu 9.04 live cd earlier=
 and I it gave me a pnpbios error, so I reboot with pnpbios=3Doff and it st=
arted fine.<br>
<br>
The new drive is a 7200 RPM, and the only a 5400rpm. This sounds like a rat=
her ludicrous question, but could that be an issue?<br>
<br>
I am currently running spinrite on the entire disk to see if there are erro=
rs (I already ran fsck and found none). it says it will be done in about 20=
 hours :X<br>
<br>
For now I put the old drive in and haven&#39;t seen any issues yet..<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Harold<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
&gt; Richard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; -- The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:<br>
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inkpad" target=3D"_blank">http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinf=
o/linux-thinkpad</a><br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
<br>
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_____________<br><br>Daniel Castro, M.Sc.<br>+353 083-318-2058<br><a href=
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