[ltp] New hard drive for T61

Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:08:21 +0100

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I would suggest to buy a 7k500 from hitachi, they are supported out of
the box including hdaps. Never have had trouble with 7k200, 7k320
personally I not have had my hands on a 7k500 ones but no idea why there
should be a difference.

Florian

Am 24.10.2009 22:48, schrieb John Jason Jordan:
> Thanks for the information. I was considering the Seagate Momentus 7400=

> rpm 500 GB drive. It's good to hear that it works well in a T61.
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> However, I just finished reading reviews on Newegg.com. There are about=

> 250 reviews. It seems people give it top rating or bottom rating, with
> few in between. The bottom raters all had their drive fail after a few
> days to a few months. If the reviews are a guide, the failure rate
> seems to be about 20%.=20
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> But I am wondering if the G version has the same issues.=20
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> I agree with your view on impressions v. numbers. I don't care about
> numbers either. If it feels faster, that is what I am looking for.
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> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:11:54 +0200
> Paul Seelig <pseelig@rumbero.es> dijo:
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>> Hi John,
>>
>> i bought a bigger replacement drive and, in a second step, a
>> second faster one just a few months ago. Both times it was a
>> Seagate Momentus 500GB disk in its G version, in order to have
>> the drive itself take care of any gravitational issues. First
>> drive was the 5400rpm speed version, and the second one the
>> faster 7200rpm speed version. There actually is a speed
>> difference, as the system does feel more responsive thanks to the
>> faster disk (running Debian/unstable). As an added benefit, the
>> 7200rpm disk comes with a 5 year warranty.
>>
>> I didn't bother to measure it, because i am not at all interested
>> in any numbers. Don't even really care about whether disk has
>> 3.0Gbit/sec or 1.5Gbits/sec throughput. Just being able to simply
>> feel the enhanced responsiveness was already enough for me to be
>> content with the doubled disk upgrade.
>>
>> The slower 5400GB Momentus is now in some cheap "Ultrabay Slim
>> SATA HDD Adapter II" imitation. I had to put a jumper on the disk
>> to limit its speed to a 1.5 Gb/s data rate, because there was an
>> issue for it being recognized by the T61 BIOS 3 (or even 4) out
>> of 5 times during startup.
>>
>> The jumpering solution for this issue is fully described here:
>>
>> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=3D1=
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>> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=3D1=
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>>
>> Might be worth to have this info added to ThinkWiki by some kind soul.=

>>
>> In any case, it is nice to have so much superfluous disk space
>> available for some KVM virtual machines or simply for scratch,
>> using the second disk primarily as an almost identical backup
>> device by mirroring.
>>
>> No, i don't endorse Seagate disks for any economic interest, but
>> i do happen to like their Momentus series quite a lot.
>>
>> Cheers
>> P. *8^)
>>
>> John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>> When Karmic goes final next week I plan to do a reinstall. But instea=
d
>>> of wiping the 160 GB hard drive that came with my T61 I want to buy a=

>>> new drive, then put the old drive in a USB enclosure. After the new
>>> install I'll copy over ~/ and perhaps other things as needed to get
>>> things back to the way they currently are (installed programs, etc.).=

>>>
>>> Normally I do a dist-upgrade, but for some time I have been having
>>> issues with Xorg or Gnome or something on Jaunty. I have spent entire=

>>> days trying to fix it, but there are literally hundreds of libraries,=

>>> modules, configurations and so on. I give up.=20
>>>
>>> I'd like a somewhat larger hard disk than the Hitachi 5416 that came
>>> with the Thinkpad, maybe around 300 GB. From past discussions that I
>>> have read here there are a couple issues:
>>>
>>> 1) My dim understanding is that Lenovo did something in the BIOS so
>>> that only hard drives bought from them will work. However, I think th=
at
>>> is not entirely correct.=20
>>>
>>> 2) I understand that my T61 has a SATA-2 controller, but Lenovo
>>> throttled it to no more than 100 Mb/s. Hence, there is no point in
>>> getting a faster hard disk. Yet there may be other issues that would
>>> make disk access faster. If possible, I would like as fast a disk as
>>> possible, given the controller situation.
>>>
>>> So my question is: Are there any T61 users here who have installed
>>> larger hard disks? If so, what did you install, and are you happy wit=
h
>>> its performance?
>> --=20
>> The linux-thinkpad mailing list home page is at:
>> http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-thinkpad

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