[ltp] IBM Thinkpad T41 type 2373-7fu; recommendations for auction
purchase and *nix type
Timothy-Allen Albertson
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:53:32 -0500
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ive used at least two ubuntu distros on a T40
us
Timothy-Allen Albertson
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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Robert Tomsick <robert@tomsick.net> wrote=
:
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> On Wednesday 25 August 2010 11:20:01 Andy Graybeal wrote:
>
> > I'm wondering if anyone has any luck running Ubuntu 10.04 on these
> > machines? Or can recommend a *nix for these machines?
>
> Not being a fan of semi-commercial distros, I can't say I've tried Ubuntu
> on a
> T4x-series machine. I have, however, used Debian on my T43p with great
> success.
>
> ThinkPads tend to be primarily Intel hardware, and since they're pretty
> close
> to a "reference" system of sorts, they tend to be very well supported by
> Linux
> distros. The T4x series is no exception to this. Assuming you get an
> Intel
> WLAN card built in, about the only thing that I can think of that would
> give
> you driver trouble would be any machines that shipped with ATI GPUs. Whi=
le
> there are Linux drivers for the Radeon series, power saving support is
> nowhere
> near as good as with the Windows drivers, so they tend to run a bit on th=
e
> hot
> side.
>
> > I'm allowed to test them before I bid, is there anything specific I
> > should be looking for?
>
> Not that I can think of. Just keep in mind that the T4x series is prone =
to
> a
> couple types of planar failure due to both heat and flex issues.
>
> > What approximate maximum bid should I go to on these? Remember no
> > harddrive and only 512MB of RAM, and I'm in the United States. I expec=
t
> > to get 5 machines if I can afford it; though I'd like to get all of the=
m
> :)
>
> Personally I'd consider them at $80 to $150 depending heavily on the
> condition.
>
> > Several of the machine have their bios passwords set. I need to find
> > out the details, but if I remember correctly it is the password to get
> > into the BIOS, not the password to boot the machine up. I read in the
> > manual that if the supervisor password is set, a board replacement is i=
n
> > order to get around this. If there are enough machines without
> > passwords, I won't be bidding on the ones with passwords.
>
> IIRC it's actually possible to replace the chip that stores the password,
> but
> it's probably not worth the hassle.
>
> > Where can I expect to purchase replacement harddrives and possibly
> > upgrade the memory? And how much do you think I'll be looking at as fa=
r
> > as price for this?
>
> Pretty much any PATA IDE drive will work just fine, although ones that
> aren't
> IBM-branded will give you a loud beep and a scary-looking (though mostly
> harmless) warning on startup.[1]
>
> You might want to check out ThinkWiki.org, as it has a vast amount of
> information relevant to this sort of thing.
>
> Cheers,
> Rob
>
> [1] http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-ThinkPad_hard_disks
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imothy-Allen Albertson<br>Facebook: <a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/home=
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o. 482284 [<a href=3D"http://counter.li.org/">http://counter.li.org/</a>]<b=
r>Registered Ubuntu User No. 25839<br>[<a href=3D"http://ubuntucounter.geek=
osophical.net/">http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/</a>]<br>
Amateur Radio Station KG6IRH/0<br>Technician Class License <br>Since 06 Nov=
ember 2001<br>Member, American Radio Relay League (ARRL)<br>Member, Mercury=
Amateur Radio Association- <br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 MidWest (MARA-M=
W)<br>Member, Fremont Amateur Radio Transmitter<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Society (FARTS) (Club Station WI6QW)<br>Member,=
SouthWest Iowa Amateur Radio Club<br>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (SWIARC) =
(Repeater K0SWI)<br>Echolink Node No. 48255<br>Citizens Band Radio Station =
KTAA51501<br>=A0 (CB Rule 17(b)(2), 47 C.F.R. 915.417(b)(2))<br>
Latitude:=A0 =A0 41.254887 (41=B0 15' 17'' N)<br>Longitude:=A0 =
=A0 -95.852753 (95=B0 51' 9'' W)<br>Grid Square:=A0 =A0 EN21bg<=
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Robert=
Tomsick <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:robert@tomsick.net">robert=
@tomsick.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);=
padding-left: 1ex;">
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On Wednesday 25 August 2010 11:20:01 Andy Graybeal wrote:<br>
<br>
> I'm wondering if anyone has any luck running Ubuntu 10.04 on these=
<br>
> machines? =A0Or can recommend a *nix for these machines?<br>
<br>
</div>Not being a fan of semi-commercial distros, I can't say I've =
tried Ubuntu on a<br>
T4x-series machine. =A0I have, however, used Debian on my T43p with great<b=
r>
success.<br>
<br>
ThinkPads tend to be primarily Intel hardware, and since they're pretty=
close<br>
to a "reference" system of sorts, they tend to be very well suppo=
rted by Linux<br>
distros. =A0The T4x series is no exception to this. =A0Assuming you get an =
Intel<br>
WLAN card built in, about the only thing that I can think of that would giv=
e<br>
you driver trouble would be any machines that shipped with ATI GPUs. =A0Whi=
le<br>
there are Linux drivers for the Radeon series, power saving support is nowh=
ere<br>
near as good as with the Windows drivers, so they tend to run a bit on the =
hot<br>
side.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
> I'm allowed to test them before I bid, is there anything specific =
I<br>
> should be looking for?<br>
<br>
</div>Not that I can think of. =A0Just keep in mind that the T4x series is =
prone to a<br>
couple types of planar failure due to both heat and flex issues.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
> What approximate maximum bid should I go to on these? Remember no<br>
> harddrive and only 512MB of RAM, and I'm in the United States. =A0=
I expect<br>
> to get 5 machines if I can afford it; though I'd like to get all o=
f them :)<br>
<br>
</div>Personally I'd consider them at $80 to $150 depending heavily on =
the<br>
condition.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
> Several of the machine have their bios passwords set. =A0I need to fin=
d<br>
> out the details, but if I remember correctly it is the password to get=
<br>
> into the BIOS, not the password to boot the machine up. =A0I read in t=
he<br>
> manual that if the supervisor password is set, a board replacement is =
in<br>
> order to get around this. =A0If there are enough machines without<br>
> passwords, I won't be bidding on the ones with passwords.<br>
<br>
</div>IIRC it's actually possible to replace the chip that stores the p=
assword, but<br>
it's probably not worth the hassle.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
> Where can I expect to purchase replacement harddrives and possibly<br>
> upgrade the memory? =A0And how much do you think I'll be looking a=
t as far<br>
> as price for this?<br>
<br>
</div>Pretty much any PATA IDE drive will work just fine, although ones tha=
t aren't<br>
IBM-branded will give you a loud beep and a scary-looking (though mostly<br=
>
harmless) warning on startup.[1]<br>
<br>
You might want to check out ThinkWiki.org, as it has a vast amount of<br>
information relevant to this sort of thing.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Rob<br>
<br>
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_disks" target=3D"_blank">http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_non-Th=
inkPad_hard_disks</a><br>
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