[ltp] Model??

[Beartooth]

On Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:35:52 -0400, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
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> On the bottom there should be a label with a more detailed "type"
> number.  That would actually tell us about your notebook's hardware as
> shipped.

	I now have a picture of that info. And I know there's a page 
online somewhere just for posting such things; but I can't recall the 
name of that page. We also removed the battery, and Istr that our guest 
also took a pic of that.

> The command lshw (for LiSt HardWare) would tell you tonnes of stuff.
> You may have to install this package.

rpm -q lshw
lshw-B.02.18-21.fc30.x86_64

	Having run lshw a time or three out of curiosity, I know what you 
mean. Should I post all that, too? Or wouldn't it be better just to copy 
a couple snippets here? If so, what should I look for? 
 
> The command dmesg would tell you what the kernel is seeing.
> Unfortunately, it's not at all clear to the uninitiated.

	You can say that again! 

	Its output runs to what must be hundreds, plural, of lines. What 
should I search? Or is there some way of delimiting it? "man dmesg" 
showed me nothing that looked hopeful (to me, at least), and neither did 
"info dmesg".

> The command "journalctr -b" will show you the system log ("-b" means
> "since last boot).  It will include the kernel log and the daemon logs.
> Unfortunately, it's not at all clear to the uninitiated.

	rpm -q doesn't find that one. Is it something I can and should 
get with dnf?

> But, in case you've mucked something up, trying a live system booted
> from a USB stick might be a good test.

	Well, I found an old live CD, and tried that; but the Thinkpad 
wouldn't boot from it. Or maybe my abysmal ignorance of UEFI means I'm 
failing to see how to tell it to. Will a USB stick be better? I have 
several.

> Wired ethernet is usually the least tricky to set up.  If possible,
> start there.

	I can unswap the Tpd and the netbook easily enough. In fact, I'd 
prefer to since the laptop has an HDMI port, so that I can run it behind 
my KVM switch -- if & when I can get it to connect.

> Most North American residential internet services (cable internet
> (DOCSIS) and phone wire internet (*DSL)) are provided through a
> combination modem / router and they usually have about four wired ports
> and one wireless one.

	My modem and router are separate -- and I own them. I have cable 
broadband.

> How is it that you have such a tough time finding an ethernet socket
> connected to your router?  Perhaps you set them up a while ago and have
> forgotten.

	I keep three or four computers on my desk, and my wife runs one. 
She can't use wireless, because her study isn't on the same floor as my 
desk. The house was built when electricity was so cheap that the floors 
are wired for heat; I'd have to put a second router on the landing. So 
she has one ethernet cable.

> How is it that you have multiple WLANs (Wireless Local Areal Network)?
> Normally that would be through additional devices that you installed but
> you don't seem to know about them.  Some might belong to your
> neighbors.

	I don't, and they do. The netbook, which does do wifi, finds a 
list of several hosts, many of which carry the names of neighbors. (Some 
have cryptic names -- which might be pseudonyms of my router, except that 
they don't accept its password.) My own wireless is hidden; you have to 
know its name AND the password to connect. In a town with twenty-five if 
not thirty thousand engineers, my bandwidth would evaporate in no time, 
to people who wouldn't even notice that they were horning in.
 
> If you get a wired connection going, the first thing to do might be to
> run "sudo dnf update".  Sometimes that fixes bugs and it is an easy
> thing to do.

	All four wired connections work fine. It's just the Thinkpad that 
has trouble. I don't use sudo; nobody ever touches my machines but me. I 
become root and run dnf at least once daily on each of them, and on the 
netbook almost as often.
-- 
Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User
Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.