[ltp] New hard drive for T61

John Jason Jordan linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 25 Oct 2009 10:00:43 -0700


I can't find the 7K500; only the 7K320. The reviews on the 7K320 seem
pretty good - not as many failures as the Seagate. And 320 GB is all I
need anyway.

How is the 7K320 for speed?


On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:08:21 +0100
Florian Manschwetus <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> dijo:

> I would suggest to buy a 7k500 from hitachi, they are supported out of
> the box including hdaps. Never have had trouble with 7k200, 7k320
> personally I not have had my hands on a 7k500 ones but no idea why there
> should be a difference.
> 
> Florian
> 
> Am 24.10.2009 22:48, schrieb John Jason Jordan:
> > Thanks for the information. I was considering the Seagate Momentus 7400
> > rpm 500 GB drive. It's good to hear that it works well in a T61.
> > 
> > However, I just finished reading reviews on Newegg.com. There are about
> > 250 reviews. It seems people give it top rating or bottom rating, with
> > few in between. The bottom raters all had their drive fail after a few
> > days to a few months. If the reviews are a guide, the failure rate
> > seems to be about 20%. 
> > 
> > But I am wondering if the G version has the same issues. 
> > 
> > I agree with your view on impressions v. numbers. I don't care about
> > numbers either. If it feels faster, that is what I am looking for.
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:11:54 +0200
> > Paul Seelig <pseelig@rumbero.es> dijo:
> > 
> >> Hi John,
> >>
> >> i bought a bigger replacement drive and, in a second step, a
> >> second faster one just a few months ago. Both times it was a
> >> Seagate Momentus 500GB disk in its G version, in order to have
> >> the drive itself take care of any gravitational issues. First
> >> drive was the 5400rpm speed version, and the second one the
> >> faster 7200rpm speed version. There actually is a speed
> >> difference, as the system does feel more responsive thanks to the
> >> faster disk (running Debian/unstable). As an added benefit, the
> >> 7200rpm disk comes with a 5 year warranty.
> >>
> >> I didn't bother to measure it, because i am not at all interested
> >> in any numbers. Don't even really care about whether disk has
> >> 3.0Gbit/sec or 1.5Gbits/sec throughput. Just being able to simply
> >> feel the enhanced responsiveness was already enough for me to be
> >> content with the doubled disk upgrade.
> >>
> >> The slower 5400GB Momentus is now in some cheap "Ultrabay Slim
> >> SATA HDD Adapter II" imitation. I had to put a jumper on the disk
> >> to limit its speed to a 1.5 Gb/s data rate, because there was an
> >> issue for it being recognized by the T61 BIOS 3 (or even 4) out
> >> of 5 times during startup.
> >>
> >> The jumpering solution for this issue is fully described here:
> >>
> >> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=193775
> >> http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=168595
> >>
> >> Might be worth to have this info added to ThinkWiki by some kind soul.
> >>
> >> In any case, it is nice to have so much superfluous disk space
> >> available for some KVM virtual machines or simply for scratch,
> >> using the second disk primarily as an almost identical backup
> >> device by mirroring.
> >>
> >> No, i don't endorse Seagate disks for any economic interest, but
> >> i do happen to like their Momentus series quite a lot.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> P. *8^)
> >>
> >> John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >>> When Karmic goes final next week I plan to do a reinstall. But instead
> >>> of wiping the 160 GB hard drive that came with my T61 I want to buy a
> >>> new drive, then put the old drive in a USB enclosure. After the new
> >>> install I'll copy over ~/ and perhaps other things as needed to get
> >>> things back to the way they currently are (installed programs, etc.).
> >>>
> >>> Normally I do a dist-upgrade, but for some time I have been having
> >>> issues with Xorg or Gnome or something on Jaunty. I have spent entire
> >>> days trying to fix it, but there are literally hundreds of libraries,
> >>> modules, configurations and so on. I give up. 
> >>>
> >>> I'd like a somewhat larger hard disk than the Hitachi 5416 that came
> >>> with the Thinkpad, maybe around 300 GB. From past discussions that I
> >>> have read here there are a couple issues:
> >>>
> >>> 1) My dim understanding is that Lenovo did something in the BIOS so
> >>> that only hard drives bought from them will work. However, I think that
> >>> is not entirely correct. 
> >>>
> >>> 2) I understand that my T61 has a SATA-2 controller, but Lenovo
> >>> throttled it to no more than 100 Mb/s. Hence, there is no point in
> >>> getting a faster hard disk. Yet there may be other issues that would
> >>> make disk access faster. If possible, I would like as fast a disk as
> >>> possible, given the controller situation.
> >>>
> >>> So my question is: Are there any T61 users here who have installed
> >>> larger hard disks? If so, what did you install, and are you happy with
> >>> its performance?
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