[ltp] More war stories about Lenovo build quality
Richard Neill
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:17:35 +0000
> 1. Fingerprint reader overheats excessively and then fails to
> function. Thinkfinger has some serious bugs related to
> this, which exposes my typed password in cleartext if I'm
> not careful.
Ugh!
>
> 2. The CPU regularly runs at 157F or higher, with nothing at
> all loaded or running. Because of this, I have to set the
> fan on full-speed at startup through APCI, which sounds
> like a jet engine in meetings and in the office.
Is the CPU actually doing anything? Check `top`. If not, you have a
hardware issue - either a loose fan/heatsink, or a very very
dust-clogged fan. If so, then kill the process.
That said, 70 C isn't that bad for a CPU - it's too hot for your knee,
but won't hurt the chip. So if you work on a desk, you can probably let
it stay there.
>
> 3. At some random interval, the keyboard decides to "forget"
> how to use ctrl/alt/shift keys, and thus I can't function at
> all in X. I can't open new applications, because typing in
> them crashes the app. I can't use keyboard shortcuts, I
> can't function in existing shells. The only way to fix that
> is to go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard, change it to
> something else (without typing anything, or I'll crash the
> Keyboard applet), then change it back again. It happens a
> few times a day, every day. VERRRRY frustrating. I don't
> know if this is hardware-driven or some bug in Ubuntu.
That's nasty. Try a different distro, with a liveCD - either an older
Ubuntu, or Knoppix. Anything interesting in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
>
> 4. X is wildly unstable. I can reproducably get GNOME + X to
> completely crash back to a shell, recycling gdm, by simply
> trying to run anything in Wine. Sometimes if I just leave
> the machine idle with X running and walk away, I'll come
> back and be at a gdm login prompt, because at some point X
> dumped and recycled gdm again. This may be due to the
> unstable, proprietary NVidia drivers or something else. It
> was a huge mistake selecting NVidia as my graphics chipset
> for a laptop in Linux.
Not as bad as ATI though! I just stick to the VESA driver on my T60p -
it doesn't seem to affect performance too badly. I can't do the
dual-screen thing, but I do get full 1600x1200 resolution on the
internal monitor, and application performance is fine. (No 3d
screensaver though).
On the upside, at least this is a repeatable crash. You might be able to
narrow down the cause. (Also, won't be too long before the renouveau
people finish, I hope!)
>
> 5. Wireless is only enabled via shell scripts. NetworkManager
> in Ubuntu does absolutely nothing, except take up
> resources. In Gutsy on my T42p, wpa_supplicant would start
> at boot time, read its config, and wireless would be
> enabled without logging in. With Hardy + NetworkManager, I
> have to physically log into the machine, open a shell, run
> a script to start wireless (basically modprobe, iwconfig,
> ifconfig commands), and then it starts.
>
> That isn't a Lenovo issue, of course. It's an Ubuntu issue.
> With each new Ubuntu release, more features are removed in
> favor of replacing them with broken applications which
> serve no logical purpose. Gutsy had no need for
> Network Manager and networking worked flawlessly there.
>
Hardy hasn't been released yet. That sounds like a good case to file a
bug report. Incidentally, Mandriva is seriously re-gaining ground vs Ubuntu.
> I'm about to give up 14+ years of working with and developing on Linux
> because it seems that with each new year, it gets more and more
> unstable, more and more things cease functioning, and I spend more time
> fighting the configuration of my own environment than using it to
> increase my productivity.
I do sympathise. But try Vista for a week, and you'll want to run back
to Linux ;-)
>
> I'm probably going to just cut bait and buy a Mac soon. At least I can
> still run all of my FLOSS packages there, and not ever have to worry
> about the hardware or functioning drivers/support.
>
I think Lenovo are in a big mess right now, and I hope they emerge from
it. However, the Macs have their own problems, and I know quite a lot of
people who have had mac-hardware issues.
Best wishes,
Richard