[ltp] Thinkwiki: ontribution impossible?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Chris Schumann wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 08:37 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Chris Schumann wrote:
> >>On 04/21/2011 06:49 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> >>>On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, David Burkhardt wrote:
> >>>>Wiki? Why is this Platform called a Wiki anyways? Its just a plain fixed Website which is technically based on a wiki Software.
> >>>No, it was an open wiki that was *destroyed* by spammers.
> >>>
> >>>Just ask for an account, and you will get one.  Or tell us what you want
> >>>fixed, and one of the hundreds of account holders that lurk here will be
> >>>happy to fix it.
> >>>
> >>>>The Mistake is in this page:
> >>>>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/TFT_display
> >>>>
> >>>>Actually there is NO 15.4 Inch Z61T - that model is called Z61m for a reason.
> >>>>This Line is just wrong: 	LP154W01-TL06 	Z60m, Z61t, Z61m
> >>>Can't you replace the original TFT in a Z61t with a LP154W01-TL06?  If you
> >>>can, the page is correct.
> >>That just seems wrong. Why put any franken-pad on that page? IMO,
> >That page is used by thinkpad repairman and hardware hackers.  Who do you
> >think actually tracks down all those TFT models? :-)  Look at the page
> >history, and the majority of the commits.
> >
> >>only factory-allowed options should be on the ThinkWiki. Otherwise,
> >>the page for the Z61T should show those options too, but in fact the
> >>page only lists 14.1" displays.
> >As I said, if the LP154W01-TL06 will NOT fit a Z61t, the page is incorrect
> >and needs a fix.  Otherwise...
> >
> >>(Again, IMO,) ThinkWiki is useful to a buyer of used equipment to
> >>see if a machine has been customized. One way to do that is to list
> >>factory options so the others stand out.
> >Well, that would work, yes.  As long as you list both, you could mark the
> >factory ones in bold or something like that without hampering the use of the
> >page by hardware hackers.
> >
> I'm guessing there's no clear policy document on this, but I want to
> understand your opinion. Do you think any IBM or Lenovo option that
> fits in a machine should be listed in the appropriate space? Any
> compatible part from any manufacturer? Only for screens, or perhaps
> for CPUs, WiFi cards, WWAN cards, and (oh boy) optical drives too?
> 
> You can see that it becomes unclear where to draw a line.

IMO, there is nothing unclear: if someone has seem fit to continuously
update the page with information of compatible parts from other
manufacturers, that means it is being useful to that person.

OTOH, I consider it useless to list parts for something where almost all
available "normal" parts would work (e.g. non-HDAPS HDDs.
HDAPS-compatible HDDs would be something worth listing).

CPUs, Intel already provides that information and the problem you could
have is the lack of a microcode update blob in the BIOS (can be fixed if
you _really_ know what you're doing), or the BIOS itself refusing to
work.  Probably worth listing, and yes, people DO upgrade the CPUs in
thinkpad planar cards.

WiFi cards and WWAN cards are listed when it makes sense to do so, the
BIOS blacklists/whitelists this stuff.

Optical drives, well, all of them with the right size to fit the bay
would work, except that none of them fit quite right, so you will have
to hardware-hack the bezel of any you get anyway.  What's the point of
listing them?

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  Henrique Holschuh