[ltp] Battery Lock Up... In 10.10 Not 9.10
Simon Royal
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:09:44 +0000
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Dmitriy
I am wondering if 10.04 suffers the same problems as 10.10.
Going to try a 10.04 Live CD and see what that does.
Simon
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> yep, even the genuine chargers sometimes die. And the battery is the most
> terrible thing in laptops IMHO. It can be overheated and die or something
> else.
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Dmitriy
>>
>> My battery wasnt new. It had about 90 mins life in according to the guy I
>> got it from. He is going to replace it when he gets some more in, which is a
>> good thing.
>>
>> I do not know anyone with a ThinkPad I could borrow a battery or charger
>> from and mine is a genuine charger.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
>> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have almost similar problems with my other Dell laptop (running Win
>>> XP). The battery sometimes does not charge at all, sometimes it does charge.
>>> But it's about 2 years old, and I guess my battery is just almost dead. If
>>> you say yours is a new one, then probable it is the problem with your
>>> charger? May be it just does not give enough voltage to keep your battery
>>> charging? You can ask one of your pals, who also has Lenovo laptop to borrow
>>> you a charger or ask guy at the local shop to do that.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>
>>>> The odd thing is I cant find any reference to it anywhere or anyone else
>>>> with the same problem, either with an R31 or any laptop.
>>>>
>>>> It might be something changed in 10.10 (or 10.04) or it might be just my
>>>> battery is really odd. It doesnt charge properly. It will get to 13% in one
>>>> shot, then to get it to go further I have to remove it and replace it. It
>>>> then charges a little bit at a time.
>>>>
>>>> I need to get hold of a 10.04 Live CD and see if it does it in that too
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
>>>> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You could possibly try some *other* distro, and try installing packages
>>>>> step by step (like cpufreqd and others) and just watch, what happens. I'd
>>>>> advise you trying Gentoo Linux, but it needs some more knowledge. You can
>>>>> also try Arch linux or *pure* Debian (installing from netinstall or business
>>>>> images) and so and so on. Yep, I know, sometimes it's really hard to
>>>>> understand *what* happens to your laptop under linux, but after some work
>>>>> you get in it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. Power Management for my ThinkPad seems a very ropey under
>>>>>> Ubuntu. It just seems 9.10 deals with things better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
>>>>>> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's what I think: you should not stick ONLY with that problem,
>>>>>>> related to BATTERY only. When you unplug your laptop (and now we're talking
>>>>>>> about ubuntu) lot's of things happen. Like changing the way your HDD spins,
>>>>>>> your monitor brightness, etc. So maybe it's the driver for your video, or
>>>>>>> hdd does those hangs up. It does not happen in 9.10, because it might have
>>>>>>> different scripts for handling those events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my battery
>>>>>>>> issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery.
>>>>>>>> OK, so the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery
>>>>>>>> issue and has the same probs under XP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while
>>>>>>>> it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10. This
>>>>>>>> at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a problem
>>>>>>>> with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install
>>>>>>>> 9.10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct
>>>>>>>> time left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery
>>>>>>>> but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I have
>>>>>>>> bigger problems in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets
>>>>>>>> into Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also
>>>>>>>> if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this
>>>>>>>> is more of a problem with Ubuntu specifically.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=off -
>>>>>>>> but that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of
>>>>>>>> screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and restored
>>>>>>>> grub.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me
>>>>>>>> from using Ubuntu all the time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> with best regards,
>>>>>>> Dmitriy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> with best regards,
>>>>> Dmitriy.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> with best regards,
>>> Dmitriy.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>
>>
>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> with best regards,
> Dmitriy.
>
--
--- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac:
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--- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple
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Dmitriy<br><br>I am wondering if 10.04 suffers the same problems as 10.10.<=
br><br>Going to try a 10.04 Live CD and see what that does.<br><br>Simon<br=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Dmitriy Ugn=
ichenko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com"=
>mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">yep, even the gen=
uine chargers sometimes die. And the battery is the most terrible thing in =
laptops IMHO. It can be overheated and die or something else.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Royal =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Dmitriy<br><br>My=
battery wasnt new. It had about 90 mins life in according to the guy I got=
it from. He is going to replace it when he gets some more in, which is a g=
ood thing.<br>
<br>I do not know anyone with a ThinkPad I could borrow a battery or charge=
r from and mine is a genuine charger.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mitya.ugnichenko=
@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I have almost similar problems with my other Dell laptop (running Win XP). =
The battery sometimes does not charge at all, sometimes it does charge. But=
it's about 2 years old, and I guess my battery is just almost dead. If=
you say yours is a new one, then probable it is the problem with your char=
ger? May be it just does not give enough voltage to keep your battery charg=
ing? You can ask one of your pals, who also has Lenovo laptop to borrow you=
a charger or ask guy at the local shop to do that.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Simon Royal =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Dmitriy<br><br>The odd thing is I cant find any reference to it anywhere or=
anyone else with the same problem, either with an R31 or any laptop.<br><b=
r>It might be something changed in 10.10 (or 10.04) or it might be just my =
battery is really odd. It doesnt charge properly. It will get to 13% in one=
shot, then to get it to go further I have to remove it and replace it. It =
then charges a little bit at a time.<br>
<br>I need to get hold of a 10.04 Live CD and see if it does it in that too=
.<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Dmitriy Ugniche=
nko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">You could possibl=
y try some *other* distro, and try installing packages step by step (like c=
pufreqd and others) and just watch, what happens. I'd advise you trying=
Gentoo Linux, but it needs some more knowledge. You can also try Arch linu=
x or *pure* Debian (installing from netinstall or business images) and so a=
nd so on. Yep, I know, sometimes it's really hard to understand *what* =
happens to your laptop under linux, but after some work you get in it.<div>
=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:51 P=
M, Simon Royal <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Dmitriy<br><br>Thanks. Power Management for my ThinkPad seems a very ropey =
under Ubuntu. It just seems 9.10 deals with things better.<br><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mitya.ugniche=
nko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hello.=A0<div><br=
></div><div>That's what I think: you should not stick ONLY with that pr=
oblem, related to BATTERY only. When you unplug your laptop (and now we'=
;re talking about ubuntu) lot's of things happen. Like changing the way=
your HDD spins, your monitor brightness, etc. So maybe it's the driver=
for your video, or hdd does those hangs up. It does not happen in 9.10, be=
cause it might have different scripts for handling those events.</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Simon Royal =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rg=
b(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi<br><br>This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my batter=
y issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below).<br><br>I
am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery. OK, so
the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery issue
and has the same probs under XP.<br>
<br>Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while
it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10.
This at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a
problem with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue.<br>
<br>Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install 9.=
10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery.<br><br>Simon<br><=
br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
<br>Hi<br>
<br>
I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and Ubuntu =
10.10<br>
<br>
The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct time=20
left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery=20
but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I=20
have bigger problems in Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets into=20
Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also=20
if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same.<br>
<br>
It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is more =
of a problem with Ubuntu specifically.<br>
<br>
I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=3Doff - but=20
that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of=20
screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and=20
restored grub.<br clear=3D"all"><br>
I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me from u=
sing Ubuntu all the time. <br>
<br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>Simon<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br><span style=
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rBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pr=
o running 2.1<br></pre></span></span></span><br><br>
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