[ltp] Battery Lock Up... In 10.10 Not 9.10
Dmitriy Ugnichenko
linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org
Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:24:38 +0200
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yep, even the genuine chargers sometimes die. And the battery is the most
terrible thing in laptops IMHO. It can be overheated and die or something
else.
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dmitriy
>
> My battery wasnt new. It had about 90 mins life in according to the guy I
> got it from. He is going to replace it when he gets some more in, which is a
> good thing.
>
> I do not know anyone with a ThinkPad I could borrow a battery or charger
> from and mine is a genuine charger.
>
> Simon
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have almost similar problems with my other Dell laptop (running Win XP).
>> The battery sometimes does not charge at all, sometimes it does charge. But
>> it's about 2 years old, and I guess my battery is just almost dead. If you
>> say yours is a new one, then probable it is the problem with your charger?
>> May be it just does not give enough voltage to keep your battery charging?
>> You can ask one of your pals, who also has Lenovo laptop to borrow you a
>> charger or ask guy at the local shop to do that.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dmitriy
>>>
>>> The odd thing is I cant find any reference to it anywhere or anyone else
>>> with the same problem, either with an R31 or any laptop.
>>>
>>> It might be something changed in 10.10 (or 10.04) or it might be just my
>>> battery is really odd. It doesnt charge properly. It will get to 13% in one
>>> shot, then to get it to go further I have to remove it and replace it. It
>>> then charges a little bit at a time.
>>>
>>> I need to get hold of a 10.04 Live CD and see if it does it in that too .
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
>>> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You could possibly try some *other* distro, and try installing packages
>>>> step by step (like cpufreqd and others) and just watch, what happens. I'd
>>>> advise you trying Gentoo Linux, but it needs some more knowledge. You can
>>>> also try Arch linux or *pure* Debian (installing from netinstall or business
>>>> images) and so and so on. Yep, I know, sometimes it's really hard to
>>>> understand *what* happens to your laptop under linux, but after some work
>>>> you get in it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dmitriy
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks. Power Management for my ThinkPad seems a very ropey under
>>>>> Ubuntu. It just seems 9.10 deals with things better.
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <
>>>>> mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I think: you should not stick ONLY with that problem,
>>>>>> related to BATTERY only. When you unplug your laptop (and now we're talking
>>>>>> about ubuntu) lot's of things happen. Like changing the way your HDD spins,
>>>>>> your monitor brightness, etc. So maybe it's the driver for your video, or
>>>>>> hdd does those hangs up. It does not happen in 9.10, because it might have
>>>>>> different scripts for handling those events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Simon Royal <mrsimonroyal@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my battery
>>>>>>> issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery.
>>>>>>> OK, so the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery
>>>>>>> issue and has the same probs under XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while
>>>>>>> it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10. This
>>>>>>> at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a problem
>>>>>>> with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install
>>>>>>> 9.10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 10.10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct
>>>>>>> time left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery
>>>>>>> but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I have
>>>>>>> bigger problems in Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets
>>>>>>> into Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also
>>>>>>> if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is
>>>>>>> more of a problem with Ubuntu specifically.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=off - but
>>>>>>> that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of screen
>>>>>>> and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and restored grub.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me
>>>>>>> from using Ubuntu all the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> with best regards,
>>>>>> Dmitriy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> with best regards,
>>>> Dmitriy.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with best regards,
>> Dmitriy.
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> --- Twitter: http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal - LowEndMac: http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum - Skype: Simon-Royal.
>
> --- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple PowerBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pro running 2.1
>
>
>
>
--
with best regards,
Dmitriy.
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yep, even the genuine chargers sometimes die. And the battery is the most t=
errible thing in laptops IMHO. It can be overheated and die or something el=
se.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon=
Royal <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com">mrsi=
monroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Dmitriy<br><br>My battery wasnt new. It had=
about 90 mins life in according to the guy I got it from. He is going to r=
eplace it when he gets some more in, which is a good thing.<br>
<br>I do not know anyone with a ThinkPad I could borrow a battery or charge=
r from and mine is a genuine charger.<br><font color=3D"#888888">
<br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <span dir=3D"l=
tr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mit=
ya.ugnichenko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
I have almost similar problems with my other Dell laptop (running Win XP). =
The battery sometimes does not charge at all, sometimes it does charge. But=
it's about 2 years old, and I guess my battery is just almost dead. If=
you say yours is a new one, then probable it is the problem with your char=
ger? May be it just does not give enough voltage to keep your battery charg=
ing? You can ask one of your pals, who also has Lenovo laptop to borrow you=
a charger or ask guy at the local shop to do that.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Simon Royal =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Dmitriy<br><br>The odd thing is I cant find any reference to it anywhere or=
anyone else with the same problem, either with an R31 or any laptop.<br><b=
r>It might be something changed in 10.10 (or 10.04) or it might be just my =
battery is really odd. It doesnt charge properly. It will get to 13% in one=
shot, then to get it to go further I have to remove it and replace it. It =
then charges a little bit at a time.<br>
<br>I need to get hold of a 10.04 Live CD and see if it does it in that too=
.<br><font color=3D"#888888"><br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Dmitriy Ugniche=
nko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" tar=
get=3D"_blank">mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">You could possibly try =
some *other* distro, and try installing packages step by step (like cpufreq=
d and others) and just watch, what happens. I'd advise you trying Gento=
o Linux, but it needs some more knowledge. You can also try Arch linux or *=
pure* Debian (installing from netinstall or business images) and so and so =
on. Yep, I know, sometimes it's really hard to understand *what* happen=
s to your laptop under linux, but after some work you get in it.<div>
=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 11:5=
1 PM, Simon Royal <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-le=
ft:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Dmitriy<br><br>Thanks. Power Management for my ThinkPad seems a very ropey =
under Ubuntu. It just seems 9.10 deals with things better.<br><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br>Simon</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Dmitriy Ugnichenko <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
href=3D"mailto:mitya.ugnichenko@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mitya.ugniche=
nko@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">Hello.=C2=A0<div><br></=
div><div>That's what I think: you should not stick ONLY with that probl=
em, related to BATTERY only. When you unplug your laptop (and now we're=
talking about ubuntu) lot's of things happen. Like changing the way yo=
ur HDD spins, your monitor brightness, etc. So maybe it's the driver fo=
r your video, or hdd does those hangs up. It does not happen in 9.10, becau=
se it might have different scripts for handling those events.</div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Simon Royal =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mrsimonroyal@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">mrsimonroyal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Hi<br><br>This is a follow up to my email earlier today regarding my batter=
y issues in Ubuntu 10.10. (see it below).<br><br>I
am writing this from within Ubuntu 9.10 Live CD off the battery. OK, so
the battery is still not charging properly but this is a battery issue
and has the same probs under XP.<br>
<br>Under 10.10 if I booted up off the battery or pulled the plug while
it was on it would hang the machine, but it isnt doing it under 9.10.
This at least gives me a bit of hope that it isnt hardware related or a
problem with my ThinkPad more of a Ubuntu issue.<br>
<br>Can anyone shed any light on this. I might just go ahead and install 9.=
10 over 10.10 - at least then I could run it off battery.<br><br>Simon<br><=
br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
<br>Hi<br>
<br>
I am trying to get round a problem with ThinkPad R31 running XP and Ubuntu =
10.10<br>
<br>
The battery is a bit flakey and it doesnt always show the correct time=20
left, so the light will flash telling me it is running out of battery=20
but it will run for about 60 mins doing this. Not a huge problem but I=20
have bigger problems in Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
It will not run off battery. If I boot it on battery once it gets into=20
Ubuntu it will hang and the scroll lock and caps lock light flash. Also=20
if I boot on AC adapter and then pull it out it does the same.<br>
<br>
It doesnt do this in XP. So while the battery is a bit flakey this is more =
of a problem with Ubuntu specifically.<br>
<br>
I have tried editing the boot options in grub - adding acpi=3Doff - but=20
that stopped the machine booting. It just showed a load of text of=20
screen and wouldnt go any further. I managed to remove the line and=20
restored grub.<br clear=3D"all"><br>
I really would love to resolve this. It is the one thing stopping me from u=
sing Ubuntu all the time. <br>
<br>
Any ideas?<br>
<br>Simon<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>-- <br><span style=
=3D"border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:'Times New =
Roman';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-=
spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white=
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apse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(42, 42,=
42)"><pre style=3D"white-space:normal;line-height:17px">
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ank">http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum</a>=C2=A0- Skype: Simon-Royal.<br style=
=3D"line-height:17px">
--- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple Powe=
rBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pr=
o running 2.1<br></pre></span></span></span><br><br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>with best regard=
s,<br><font color=3D"#888888">Dmitriy.<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><span style=3D"b=
order-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:'Times New Roman=
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rgb(162, 97, 12);line-height:17px;font-weight:inherit;text-decoration:none"=
target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal</a>=C2=A0- LowEndMac:=C2=
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ank">http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum</a>=C2=A0- Skype: Simon-Royal.<br style=
=3D"line-height:17px">
--- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple Powe=
rBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pr=
o running 2.1<br></pre></span></span></span><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>with best r=
egards,<br>Dmitriy.<br>
</div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><span style=3D"border-c=
ollapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:'Times New Roman';f=
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al;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norma=
l;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium"><span style=3D"border-collapse:collaps=
e;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style=3D"font-family:T=
ahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(42, 42, 42)"><pre s=
tyle=3D"white-space:normal;line-height:17px">
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rgb(162, 97, 12);line-height:17px;font-weight:inherit;text-decoration:none"=
target=3D"_blank">http://twitter.com/SimonRoyal</a>=C2=A0- LowEndMac:=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum" style=3D"color:rgb(162, 97, 1=
2);line-height:17px;font-weight:inherit;text-decoration:none" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum</a>=C2=A0- Skype: Simon-Royal.<br style=
=3D"line-height:17px">
--- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple Powe=
rBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pr=
o running 2.1<br></pre></span></span></span><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>with best r=
egards,<br><font color=3D"#888888">Dmitriy.<br>
</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><span style=3D"b=
order-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:'Times New Roman=
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amily:Tahoma,Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(42, 42, 42)"=
><pre style=3D"white-space:normal;line-height:17px">
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=A0<a href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum" style=3D"color:rgb(162, 97, 1=
2);line-height:17px;font-weight:inherit;text-decoration:none" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://tinyurl.com/macspectrum</a>=C2=A0- Skype: Simon-Royal.<br style=
=3D"line-height:17px">
--- IBM ThinkPad R31 running Ubuntu 10.10 & Windows XP Home. Apple Powe=
rBook G3 'Pismo' running OSX 10.4. Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Mini Pr=
o running 2.1<br></pre></span></span></span><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>with best r=
egards,<br>Dmitriy.<br>
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